Two Guantanamo Inmates Show up on Al-Queda Video

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I wonder if President Obama has been briefed on this yet.  This story has been mentioned on Drudge and isn’t actually gracing the headlines today in a way that it should particularly since Obama has just signed an executive order closing down the prison that used to house these two. 

Well, after it’s closed down, we now know what we can expect.

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11 thoughts on “Two Guantanamo Inmates Show up on Al-Queda Video

  1. It was only a matter of time, buddy. I’m curious to know if he’s made any changes in his policy in light of this, but I sincerely doubt it. I’m not holding my breath for anything at this point.

  2. Why aren’t you mentioning the fact that these guys were released by Bush’s pentagon? It seems like if these guys were held and released, the concept of Gitmo doesn’t work in the first place, so your argument becomes ‘we should keep it open’? That makes sense…

  3. “Why aren’t you mentioning the fact that these guys were released by Bush’s pentagon? It seems like if these guys were held and released, the concept of Gitmo doesn’t work in the first place, so your argument becomes ‘we should keep it open’? That makes sense…”

    Robert are you o.k.? You argument justifies closing every prison in America. Some inmates get out of prison and never get into trouble. Others end up back in prison because they re-offend. Obviously since inmates re-offend we should not have prisons?

  4. I don’t know how you got that from what I said, but if those people were guilty of the terrorism they seek to be a part of, they would have been charged, and therefore would not be appearing in Al-Qaeda videos, they would be rotting in a prison cell. They obviously didn’t have anything to charge them with, so they let them go.

    You’re also not acknowledging the possibility that they joined Al-Qaeda as a result of being being picked up and held for who knows how many months or years. I would imagine those people would be pretty pissed after being falsely imprisoned for that long…

  5. Robert,

    Perhaps I am tripping over semantics. But here goes. The government may not be able prove any person is guilty of a crime. But that doesn’t mean the person they suspect is innocent.

    I do agree the Bush Pentagon let these men go. Why is the question at hand. Were they innocent of terrorism? Were they guilty but not enough evidence is at hand? I’d like to know the truth to that.

    I do agree if I were locked up for years and then let go without being charged I’d be mighty angry too. I don’t know if I would be angry enough to take up arms. But yeah, I’d be pissed.

  6. No, nothing justifies turning these men into terrorists, they already were before hand.

    This is why Gitmo, terrorists captured, etc. need to be kept out of the know when it comes to liberals and the NY Times.

    If that logic were true (the US created them) then we should execute every detainee at Gitmo at once before they have a chance to be released.

    It would be in the best interest of the world, not just the USA.

  7. “You’re also not acknowledging the possibility that they joined Al-Qaeda as a result of being being picked up and held for who knows how many months or years.”

    Robert, that is blatant excuse-making for terrorism. Honestly, if they read that, they’d grin I am sure because you’re making their life a lot easier.

    So, then let’s take that along with the point I just made. Let’s assume all of them will become terrorists because they were picked up and held…..then shouldn’t that mean that they should indeed all be executed before being released to convert to terrorism?

    Nobody ever takes the position that “gee, maybe when they get out they will be pissed at the men that got them into that mess, the Arabs and Muslims committing the terrorism.” No, it’s always what the USA did wrong, isn’t it?

  8. “If that logic were true (the US created them) then we should execute every detainee at Gitmo at once before they have a chance to be released.”

    Really, Steve? I created a monster, so I should kill it to make all well again? Give me a break…

    “Robert, that is blatant excuse-making for terrorism. ”

    No, it’s not. If you were capable of a nuanced thought like John, you’d be able to see past the view you’re entrenched in.

    “So, then let’s take that along with the point I just made. Let’s assume all of them will become terrorists because they were picked up and held…..then shouldn’t that mean that they should indeed all be executed before being released to convert to terrorism?”

    No, you hockey puck. We have a rule of law in this country that says innocent until proven guilty, not kill em all and let God sort em out…

    “No, it’s always what the USA did wrong, isn’t it?”

    In this case, absolutely. If they were doing the terrible things you assume they did, common sense should tell you they would have been killed in action. I don’t know, it just seems to me that if I saw some dude bombing the fuck out of something, and I’m G.I., I’m taking him out…

  9. “You’re also not acknowledging the possibility that they joined Al-Qaeda as a result of being being picked up and held for who knows how many months or years. ”

    That’s a big stretch in my opinion. In this country there are people who have served decades in prison for crimes they did not commit. When these people get out, they don’t automatically go and commit the crime they just did time for.

    As I see it the questions I posed before are still on the table. Why were these men released?

  10. “In this country there are people who have served decades in prison for crimes they did not commit. When these people get out, they don’t automatically go and commit the crime they just did time for.”

    You’re really comparing apples and oranges. It’s not the same at all. This is a situation where we’re already occupying their country, which would piss anyone off, then we’re just nabbing them and dumping them in cells without telling them why they’re there, not allowing them to have any contact with the outside world. I’m sure wives and children assume the worst. No one knows these people are there, they’re just held captive for extended periods of time. And when they are released, they’re probably a little upset at us for the myriad of reasons I listed. So is it really that big of a stretch that someone would be inclined to join a group of like minded individuals to drive the occupiers out of their country?

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