Olbermann’s “Teeny-Tiny” Mistake Monitor Finally Gets Smacked Down

You know, Ann Coulter can take a beating.  I thought about posting every youtube video of Keith Olbermann yammering on about something Ann Coulter did or said (They’re easy to find, just look for the ones on youtube that say “Olbermann pwns Ann Coulter” or “Olbermann Destroys Coulter!” ) but it would have taken up the entire page.

In all of Olbermann’s Ann-obsession, Coulter managed to skirt on by with not much to say, because afterall, who cares?  It’s ONLY a liberal on MSNBC!

But after the above segment of “Countdown” aired regarding Rush Limbaugh’s speech at CPAC, Coulter had plenty to say tonight in her newly released column:

These small-time opportunities to show off by correcting someone else’s teeny-tiny mistakes are the lifeblood of Olbermann’s MSNBC show, “Countdown.”

There is utterly no purpose to these lame “gotchas,” except that Olbermann is so desperately insecure that he is willing to waste valuable airtime in order to convince other status-conscious idiots that he is, like, scary-smart.

Olbermann relentlessly attacked low-level Bush administration employee Monica Goodling for not going to a name-dropping college, saying — approximately 1 million times — that she got her law degree “by sending 100 box tops to Religious Lunatic University.”

I would venture to say that the students at Goodling’s law school at Regent University are far more impressive than those at the Cornell agriculture school — the land-grant, non-Ivy League school Keith attended.

That’s right, folks!  The intellectual light of the left; Keith Olbermann, did not graduate an Ivy League school.  He went to a state-version of agriculture and studied “communications.”  As Ann points out, he continuously (as all liberals do) spotlights “teeny-tiny” mistakes to erase the room for the point he was supposed to really be making – all while telling others of his “Ivy league” status.

Indeed, Keith is constantly lying about his nonexistent “Ivy League” education, boasting to Playboy magazine, for example: “My Ivy League education taught me how to cut corners, skim books and take an idea and write 15 pages on it, and also how to work all day at the Cornell radio station and never actually go to class.”

Except Keith didn’t go to the Ivy League Cornell; he went to the Old MacDonald Cornell.

The real Cornell, the School of Arts and Sciences (average SAT: 1,325; acceptance rate: 1 in 6 applicants), is the only Ivy League school at Cornell and the only one that grants a Bachelor of Arts degree. 

The rest is just too painful but quite enjoyable.  Liberals knit-pick at simple mistakes or misstatements all the time (“I can see Russia from my house!”) like Olbermann did here in this video with regard to Rush quoting the Declaration of Independence when he thought he was quoting the Constitution.

Olbermann is going to wake up pretty angry.  The quote that got me to ALMOST feel sorry for him:

It may seem cruel to reveal the true college of someone who already wakes up in the middle of the night in a cold sweat worried that he’s a fraud. But I believe that by pointing out that Olbermann actually is a fraud, I am liberating him.

You may not realize it now, Keith, but you will look back on this day and say, “That was the best thing that ever happened to me!”

Let the war begin.  But Ann Coulter, a true attendee of the real-life-Ivy-League Cornell (and graduate) is well-prepared and finally knocked this pompous and bitter man off of his imaginary golden-platter and served him on a paper plate where he belongs. 

Read “Olbermann’s Plastic Ivy.”

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42 thoughts on “Olbermann’s “Teeny-Tiny” Mistake Monitor Finally Gets Smacked Down

  1. Olbermann certainly went to Cornell, but it was the udder college, an Alfalfa League institution.

  2. I can’t forget when, during the GOP convention last year just before McCain spoke, Olbermann threw a hissy fit over the GOP showing images of 9/11 in a video montage. As if the Dems hadn’t done the same thing to suit their own points! He had a snit fit on national TV about how he thought it was wrong to show the images because it was “painful” for him and those like him.

    Boo-freakin’-hoo, Keith. Get off your soapbox.

  3. Ann Coulter is a moron. She wants to call people nitpicky? At least Olbermann doesn’t have to resort to Howard Stern type comments to get attention. Ann (or Mann, as I like to call “her”), can only get on TV to call politicians faggots, or to goad them by making light of the fact that a child of theirs died in an auto accident. And of course, who could forget her delightful display of “ooh, someone look at me!” when she claims that wives enjoy the fact that their husbands were either burned, crushed, or jumped to their deaths in this nation’s most traumatic moment (how’s that for mean spritedness, Jennifer?). This all came from a supposed woman who has the temerity to call anyone on this earth Godless? I truly believe that her reward is waiting in Hell. Ann is of a rare breed of people you just don’t feel bad for when they break their jaws and have them wired shut so they can’t spew excrement anymore. (I know, it didn’t last long enough)

    Here’s a gem from her article that Steve forgot to post:

    “Keith went to an affiliated state college at Cornell, the College of Agriculture and Life Sciences (average SAT: about that of pulling guards at the University of South Carolina; acceptance rate: 1 of every 1 applicants). “

    I love it when people try to denigrate other people, but end up showing a real lack of integrity in the process. According to Cornell’s website, this campus’ acceptance rate is 21.89%. 1,028 out of 4,697 were accepted. This smarmy bitch needs a lesson in math, which is apparently not taught at the “real” Cornell, whatever the fuck that means. Steve likes to call the campus she went to the real Ivy League school, and it appears that Mann agrees with that, completely shitting on every other campus, as if people that attended the Architecture, Art & Planning, Engineering, and the Industrial & Labor Relations schools don’t matter for shit. Only you matter Ann! No one else is fit to show off their disgusting chicken legs in the one fucking black cocktail dress they own. Go to hell, cunt.

  4. Oh, I suppose I should apologize to anyone who may have been offended at the barrage of obscenities in that last post. I just really dislike Ann Coulter.

  5. Yes, Ann has said some things that I disagree with. Maybe she was doing it for the publicity, maybe not. But she also has a knack for putting liberals in their place. I’m actually surprised that it took her this long to lay into Olbermann, and he fully deserved it.

  6. Why does it matter?

    I hate it when people associate the “Ivy League” as a litmus test for intelligence. Its a sport league people…

    There are many schools that rate at or above the majority of the Ivy League schools, and technically Cornell isn’t part of the 7 core schools either so it doesn’t really matter..

  7. “I hate it when people associate the “Ivy League” as a litmus test for intelligence. Its a sport league people…

    There are many schools that rate at or above the majority of the Ivy League schools, and technically Cornell isn’t part of the 7 core schools either so it doesn’t really matter..”

    Nobody is arguing any status here. Just stop asking Keith Olbermann to stop ripping into others based on what school they went to while LYING AS A FRAUD that he has an Ivy league Education.

    Cornell is an Ivy League School which is where Coulter went but not Olbermann.

    And if it were the other way around, can you imagine?

  8. Correction:

    No part of the column states that Coulter herself went to Cornell. She’s much too classy to run around bragging the school she went to. It’s listed on her resume everywhere.

    Unlike Coulter, Olbermann couldn’t keep quiet about it.

  9. “According to Cornell’s website, this campus’ acceptance rate is 21.89%. 1,028 out of 4,697 were accepted.”

    Robert, this is NOT A “CAMPUS” of Cornell. This is a specialized school for farming associated with Cornell because it’s probably the best school a farmer could go to. But it is NOT an Ivy League school as Olbermann consistently lies about.

    This does not mean that stupid people go there, and it does not mean that super-smart people DON’T go there. What it means is that; unlike Olbermann, Coulter manages to escape reminding us that she actually went to the actual Ivy League “Cornell, the School of Arts and Sciences” IN LIEU OF THE NON-IVY-LEAGUE “Cornell, the College of Agriculture and Life Sciences.”

    Olbermann runs around blathering about his “Ivy League” education to make himself appear qualified to point out a stupid mistake like he did with Rush to try and make folks believe that Rush knew nothing about what he was talking about.

    Olbermann pulls this type of fraud all the time.

    I’m so sick of smashing liberals over the head with these, but I cannot let you slip by:

    “can only get on TV to call politicians faggots”

    Number one, she didn’t use the homophobic version, she used the wuss version. Secondly, it was a joke in the regard that Isiah Washington in that same week had gone to rehab for using the same word. As a gay guy, I think it is a bit nutty to send someone to rehab over a word. Also, she’s been on TV thousands of times. Where’s the “can only” fit in?

    “or Mann, as I like to call “her””

    Nice, you actually display the worst homophobia possible by implying that it’s a horrible thing to be gay or trangendered right before you assault Coulter for using a word in a joking context all for the purposes of better attacking Ann Coulter.

    Remind us again how much nicer the liberals are to the gays.

    “goad them by making light of the fact that a child of theirs died in an auto accident”

    She didn’t make light of it, John Edwards HAD A BONFIRE IN WASHINGTON OVER IT. He was the one who used his son’s death to advance himself politically, not Ann Coulter. Though, I do believe that it was shortly after the death of his son that Edwards began porking that other woman while his grieving wife had cancer. (Something about evildoers claiming to be victims that makes me sick – say didn’t Ann Coulter write a book about that recently?)

    “And of course, who could forget her delightful display of “ooh, someone look at me!” when she claims that wives enjoy the fact that their husbands were either burned, crushed, or jumped to their deaths in this nation’s most traumatic moment ”

    She didn’t say that. She said they were enjoying their deaths in the fact that they were loving the media attention, the Vanity Fair photo shoots, and their stardom while anyone who dared challenge them would be classified as an evildoer while indeed these HARPIES were using their enjoyed star power to stump for Kerry in commercials and putting others at risk. NEVER did she say they enjoyed the fact that they burned up, that they enjoyed watching them die….how disturbed (or desperate) can you be to characterize: “I’ve never seen people enjoying their husbands’ deaths so much” to “boy, they loved watching their husbands burn, they loved watching them die” – it’s so getting old and thank God for her because now those harpies are gone. You know, after the Coulter-attention, Kristen Breitweiser started writing for the Huffington Post and wrote her own book and went on TV constantly using Coulter’s book to promote herself.

    Hey, would it be “mean” if I said: “I’ve never seen someone enjoy being a victim so much?” without having you call up the multi-meaning “phrase police.”

    Fortunately for the good of the country, Breitweiser’s book failed miserably. But Coulter’s did swell in case you were wondering.

    The fact is that they meant about as much to you and your leftist phonies as Cindy Sheehan did. Now you’re done with them, let’s stick with the topic at hand before you dance off to reminding us that she really did want to “invade their countries, kill their leaders, and convert them to Christianity.”

    “how’s that for mean spritedness, Jennifer?”

    Damn, I could correct your simple typo to make myself appear more intelligent (something only Olbermann could do), and it seems as if I am passing it up. But the fact is that none of your examples exude “mean-spiritedness” out of Ann Coulter. And as I said, I could fill a page with the same childish homophobic (Mann Coulter) remarks made on actual TV by Olbermann that you just made. Suddenly now, you’re worried about who’s “mean?”

    The end of the day, you should thank her. Because when she writes a pure factual article about the fraud known as Keith Olbermann, you can remind us that it’s only because she’s “mean.”

  10. “Unlike Coulter, Olbermann couldn’t keep quiet about it.”

    You know it’s funny that you claim that, but as a regular viewer, I have never once heard him mention his college…

  11. “Robert, this is NOT A “CAMPUS” of Cornell. This is a specialized school for farming associated with Cornell because it’s probably the best school a farmer could go to. But it is NOT an Ivy League school as Olbermann consistently lies about.”

    Really, then how’d I get there by going to Cornell’s website? You’re arguing semantics here. It is a campus and is part of the university. You want to make a big deal because it has the word agriculture in it? That’s fine but you‘re making an ass of yourself. That’s like saying Harvard Business School is not part of Harvard.

    “Olbermann runs around blathering about his “Ivy League” education to make himself appear qualified to point out a stupid mistake like he did with Rush to try and make folks believe that Rush knew nothing about what he was talking about.”

    I think it’s pretty clear that he doesn’t. We got his gist, but he was factually wrong. You’d be just as quick to point out a liberal who did it, and you know it. The only reason you’re bitching is because your guy got caught being WRONG.

    “Number one, she didn’t use the homophobic version, she used the wuss version”

    Oh, pardon me, I didn’t realize there were two versions. For future reference, which version of the word nigger or kike is acceptable to you?

    “Nice, you actually display the worst homophobia possible by implying that it’s a horrible thing to be gay or trangendered right before you assault Coulter for using a word in a joking context all for the purposes of better attacking Ann Coulter.”

    Joke? No, the kid gloves come off when she has the audacity to question the sexuality of every single person around her. She’s called Al Gore fag, called Bill Clinton a closet homosexual, and implied that Hillary Clinton was a lesbian. That type of incendiary BS merely opens the door for the obvious attack on her. Haven’t you ever thought it was odd that she goes around questioning others’ sexuality while she herself has an Adam’s Apple the size of your fist? Give me a break, the woman’s clearly insecure about herself, that’s why she has to run off at the mouth like that every chance she gets. It’s a classic case of trying to project one’s insecurities onto others in an attempt to draw attention away from her own, in turn causing more light to be shed on herself.

    “Remind us again how much nicer the liberals are to the gays.”

    That’s easy, name one liberal pundit who feels it’s necessary to call people any variation of the word faggot.

    “She didn’t make light of it, John Edwards HAD A BONFIRE IN WASHINGTON OVER IT. He was the one who used his son’s death to advance himself politically, not Ann Coulter”

    So, anyone who holds a vigil, a memorial, or even a wake or funeral, is in your estimation, doing it for some personal gain? Do you see now why people think that mind frame is sick? Geez, you’re the same assholes who tried to accuse Democrats of sinister activities because they held a memorial for Paul Wellstone. I guess that what happens when you put a pro wrestler in charge of an entire state. Did anyone accuse you guys of that during Reagan’s funeral?

    “She didn’t say that. She said they were enjoying their deaths in the fact that they were loving the media attention”

    Right, and that’s a horrible thing to say. Why can’t that bitch just keep her fucked up opinions to herself? She’s just as bad as those freaks who show up to funerals with “God hates fags” signs. She is every bit as despicable as those people.

    “how disturbed (or desperate) can you be to characterize: “I’ve never seen people enjoying their husbands’ deaths so much” to “boy, they loved watching their husbands burn, they loved watching them die””

    I see, she said it, but I’m the deranged one. Lovely. How on earth do you people sleep at night?

    “Now you’re done with them, let’s stick with the topic at hand before you dance off to reminding us that she really did want to “invade their countries, kill their leaders, and convert them to Christianity.””

    Exactly. What a despicable pile of puke that bitch is. What were you saying about your party never using religion as a weapon?

    “Damn, I could correct your simple typo to make myself appear more intelligent (something only Olbermann could do), and it seems as if I am passing it up”

    Actually you didn’t. And Olbermann presented (and he wasn’t the only one) the factual inaccuracy of Limbaugh. If my typo is a factual inaccuracy, you just go ahead and let me know.

    “But the fact is that none of your examples exude “mean-spiritedness” out of Ann Coulter”

    Oh, it appears that it’s lunch time:

    “I’m a Christian first and a mean-spirited, bigoted conservative second” – Ann Coulter

    Knowing you, you’ll lie and try to pass it off as a joke. How many times do you think you can get away with the same tired lies? She knows she’s scum, and she proudly boasts of it.

    “And as I said, I could fill a page with the same childish homophobic (Mann Coulter) remarks made on actual TV”

    You should probably dust off the old dictionary and look up homophobia, then come back with a different baseless complaint.

    “The end of the day, you should thank her. Because when she writes a pure factual article about the fraud known as Keith Olbermann, you can remind us that it’s only because she’s “mean.””

    Factual? Who knows if that’s even the truth about Olbermann’s higher education? Half the garbage she prints are flat out lies, and the other half are LexisNexis searches buried in endnotes that only nerds like Al Franken bother to research and prove to be false.

    The bottom line is, Olbermann, or any other liberal pundit you can think of, has never had to say disgusting, reprehensible things to get attention. None of them have ever called anyone a fag, never regretted the fact that Tim McVeigh didn’t bomb Sun Myung Moon’s office, and never suggested killing anyone and converting others to their religion. That is why a little thing called karma has already smashed her jaw and had her eating through straws, and that’s why it will probably lead to more unpleasantness in the future…

  12. “That’s easy, name one liberal pundit who feels it’s necessary to call people any variation of the word faggot.”

    Hate comes out perfectly fine without the use of slurs, Robert. I get it every time a liberal finds out I’m a conservative lesbian and they say something like, “it must be a case of self-loathing, why don’t you come out of the closet?” I had one girl try to start a physical fight with me once a couple of years ago because I refused to back down from my support of both the troops AND their mission. I don’t know what you call that, but I call it intolerance and hate. That’s exactly what liberals scream at conservatives for. I’ve gotten more hatred from the liberal gay community for being conservative than I’ve ever gotten from conservatives for being gay.

    Slurs are not needed to imply hatred.

  13. You know, if Ivy League Universities are as good as they hype, why should we celebrate people who graduate from them and have excellent jobs? Shouldn’t that be the norm – the expected?

    Perhaps, with the gifts they have been given, we should shrug at their accomplishments more as something to be expected and then move on to celebrate those who achieved the same thing with a degree from an institution not quite so prestigious and also without the social club connections that come along with a degree from Princeton/Harvard/Yale/Columbia et. al.

    In that case, not only is Olbermann working hard to earn the “Most Irritating Man on Earth” award, but he’s also nothing special, really. No matter what degree he talks up.

  14. And then there’s Noonan, who greets us with “hello gays” as if he’s walking into a room and saying “hello, blacks” to group of black rappers.

    Noonan, I was unaware that I was quite so butch. Since you’re talking about things you know nothing about I do believe you can kiss my American ass.

  15. “She didn’t say that. She said they were enjoying their deaths in the fact that they were loving the media attention”

    Steve

    Right, and that’s a horrible thing to say. Why can’t that bitch just keep her fucked up opinions to herself? She’s just as bad as those freaks who show up to funerals with “God hates fags” signs. She is every bit as despicable as those people.

    Robert

    Well guys, those 9-1-1- widows how decided to stump for Kerry and gain media attention by doing it put the entire country in a sticky situation.

    On the one hand, when any person jumps into the political areana then that person is open to question and potential praise or ridicule.

    But, how do you deal with someone when they only claim to fame is their husband was killed in a terrorist attack?

    Recriminating against someone like that comes off as abusive. But, using your tragedy as a shield is dirty pool too.

    Ann Coulter called these 9-1-1- widows out like anyone else in the political areana. In the end, they are out of the mix and Ann Coulter is going strong. So tell me who won that battle?

  16. Regarding Cornell or any university. Correct me if I am in error.

    A university is a collection of colleges. My alma mater has I think seven colleges under its banner.

    A college is a school within a university in the classic sense. But in the modern sense the words college and university are often used interchangeably (sp).

    Now, sometimes a college is not a college. Boston College is a university. But BC can’t call itself Boston University because that name is in use. But I supposed it could call itself the University of Boston.

    Anyway…just thought I’d toss that out.

  17. Apparently according to liberals the Ivy Cornell graduates morons like Ann while the Cow Manure Cornell graduates intelligent people like Keith.

    Or maybe it is impossible for a liberal to be objective….

    One thing i haven’t seen yet is Keith’s claim to being an Ivy League graduate be substantiated by anyone from Cornell. If they were proud of him, why not. If Ann was wrong, why not state it and clear up the confusion?

    Simple answer, no matter how mad it makes the idiot liberals (redundant use of idiot) Ann is right…

  18. Where did homophobia come in. I wasn’t aware that Keith had the affliction known as Homosexuality. But then, that may be the norm for people like him.

  19. Welcome to the madness, Ralph…homophobia came up in reference to a comment Ann made in passing (she was joking about Isaiah Washington’s rehab stint for using the dreaded “F” word). Whether Olbermann is gay or not, I personally couldn’t care less; it wouldn’t surprise me, though, since most of the gay community is every bit as intolerant as he is.

  20. “Oh, pardon me, I didn’t realize there were two versions. For future reference, which version of the word nigger or kike is acceptable to you?”

    Stop comparing gays to blacks. We are supposed to be doing that. There is no similarities whatsoever to what blacks went through in this country to what I am subjected to now (individual liberty and a vote that counts). The word faggot has no business in the same category as nigger or kike.

    “That’s easy, name one liberal pundit who feels it’s necessary to call people any variation of the word faggot.”

    Maybe you can show me one Republican who pretends to be pro-gay then turns around and votes against them like your liberals do in both Congress and among your voting base all while using homophobia as you did to insinuate that Ann Coulter is a transexual.

    “She’s just as bad as those freaks who show up to funerals with “God hates fags” signs.”

    Suddenly you want her to keep her opinions to herself when she calls your party out on your shameless exploitation of victims like 9/11 widows (just as long as they stumped for John Kerry in 2004) and Cindy Sheehan (up until she started attacking Democrats, too when you guys started calling her an attention whore). Matt Lauer said Coulter’s argument was washed out since she was able to voice her opinion. BUT YOU CONFIRM COULTER’S ARGUMENT BY SAYING “WHY COULDN’T SHE KEEP HER OPINION TO HERSELF!” Apparently she DOES NOT have the freedom to attack them in your world which was precisey the point she was making which is precisely the SAME POINT you and every other liberal continues to confirm over and over and over again whenever you scream about it.

    “I see, she said it, but I’m the deranged one. Lovely. How on earth do you people sleep at night?”

    You “see” nothing. She didn’t say it in the way in which you portrayed it. So stop lying and exaggerating about it and stop trying to avoid the fact.

    ““I’m a Christian first and a mean-spirited, bigoted conservative second” – Ann Coulter

    LOL…..that’s what we call a funny line, Robert.
    One purposely aimed to make you mad and to make me laugh. Mission accomplished.

    She also once said in regard to a liberal hysteric much like yourself:

    “I didn’t even tell her about the prison camps I have planned for the liberals, and now suddenly THIS” (the girl wrote a stupid article entitled “Death is Sexier Than Sex (to Ann Coulter).”

    Excuse her for having fun at the expense of your hysteria.

    “You should probably dust off the old dictionary and look up homophobia, then come back with a different baseless complaint.”

    That’s not baseless. If being a transexual or gay weren’t a bad thing in your “acceptance and love for all (that don’t work)” world, you wouldn’t use it to make a joke. Your problem is “words” and mine is your actual actions…..your choice of phrases and Olbermann’s as well when it comes to arguing back to Ann Coulter’s wonderful arguments.

    Moreover; if you can take a phrase like “I’ve never seen people enjoying their husbands’ deaths so much” and change it around to say that they actually enjoyed WATCHING their husbands burn on the day it happened, I know I am more-than-qualified to make the assumption that apparently you DON’T love and accept the GLBT community since you simultaneously find it to be such a wonderful thing to use in regard to insulting Ann Coulter.

    “Factual? Who knows if that’s even the truth about Olbermann’s higher education?”

    Did he yet deny it? Furthermore; the point of her column was to smack him upside his head for making fun of the colleges of Bush appointees while fraudulently claiming to have an “Ivy-League” education in communications.

    “The bottom line is, Olbermann, or any other liberal pundit you can think of, has never had to say disgusting, reprehensible things to get attention”

    The bottom line is nobody watched Olbermann or any liberal pundit to the point where they hang on their every word. Take a look at the things Olbermann has said about Sarah Palin, Ann Coulter, or Bobby Jindal as of late – the kind of things liberals LOVE posting on youtube to brag but love to deny when faced with the fact that Coulter is guilty of NOTHING than doing a much better job at what you guys have attempted to do for years – enrage your opposition.

  21. Yes Ralph, please continue your detestable defense of a person who shouldn’t even be categorized as human…

  22. If I were to say what I think about uber-liberal Hillary Clinton–that she’s a tranny, a man passing himself off as a woman happy to pretend to be married to a raping skirt-chaser because he saw no other way to get into politics–I would instantly be lynched, tarred and feathered by every liberal out there.

    I’m sorry, did I just say something politically incorrect? Stop me now, guys, I might do it again!

  23. “Yes Ralph, please continue your detestable defense of a person who shouldn’t even be categorized as human…”

    C’mon Robert, lighten up. You know we love you.

  24. “Stop comparing gays to blacks”

    No. When you discuss the nature of a word that was only created to disparage an entire people, you don’t get the luxury of separating the two. I know you like to pretend that you have it worse than blacks ever did, but the fact of the matter is, the word is unacceptable.

    “Maybe you can show me one Republican who pretends to be pro-gay then turns around and votes against them like your liberals do”

    You know I can’t do that because republicans make no bones about their disdain for homosexuals, using, of course, religion as their weapon of choice.

    “…all while using homophobia as you did to insinuate that Ann Coulter is a transexual.”

    And so what if she were? I guarantee you that no liberal in this country would tear her down for it, unless she makes it a point to question everyone else’s sexuality, which she does. It’s called hypocrisy. And instead of jumping down my throat for some bullshit that you chose to infer, why on earth do you sit there and defend this woman, who day in and day out, makes her living saying horribly insensitive things? Seeing as how no one is allowed to say anything bad about Israel, I can only assume you would treat a holocaust denier as Satan, but your Coulter gets to skate on by after saying “I think our motto should be, post-9-11, ‘raghead talks tough, raghead faces consequences.”

    “Suddenly you want her to keep her opinions to herself when she calls your party out on your shameless exploitation of victims like 9/11 widows”

    I think she should keep her opinions to herself when all she does is spew garbage. It’s just like when that asshole came into this forum last month, whose only goal was to taunt all you folks and regale you with stories of gay bashing. There was no point in making that statement, it added nothing to the conversation, and was only brought up to attack someone. I see Coulter’s remarks no differently.

    That being said, first of all, I have no party. Second of all, they (the wives) came out themselves and decried the Bush administration’s obvious lack of interest in an investigation of 9/11, and that gives you scum the right to attack them? Because they wanted answers? Because your pathetic president had to be shamed into investigating the worst attack on US soil ever? Are you fucking kidding me? Sure, he begrudgingly set up a panel to investigate, and when called to testify, did so only on the condition that he wouldn’t be under oath, and he would only show up hand in bloody fucking hand with Dick Cheney. You people make me sick.

    “Apparently she DOES NOT have the freedom to attack them in your world which was precisey [sic] (sorry, Steve, my teeny-tiny mistake monitor went off :-P) the point she was making which is precisely the SAME POINT you and every other liberal continues to confirm over and over and over again whenever you scream about it.”

    What purpose did it serve, Steve? Was what the wives said contended in any way? No, what they said was truth, and Coulter didn’t like the fact that someone dared questioned the president in such a chaotic time. For all we know, she just doesn’t like the fact that anyone would stand up to a republican, which is hypocritical, because, as I understand it, all of those ladies were registered republitards who voted for Bush.

    “You “see” nothing. She didn’t say it in the way in which you portrayed it. So stop lying and exaggerating about it and stop trying to avoid the fact.”

    It’s still just as incendiary Steve. I may be out of line here, and feel free to chastise me publicly (or privately via email if you like), but what if I came in here and accused you of enjoying your brother’s medical problems because it got you sympathy? Please understand that I am in NO WAY doing that, but really? Wouldn’t you think I was just the biggest piece of shit on earth for saying something so horrible? It’s just not a fair point of attack. Like that one guy who kept coming in here making fun of your mother, and tossing out idiotic phrases like “bone smoker”. There’s just no basis for such a ridiculous argument. Coulter attacked those women long before they supported Kerry and did it in despicable fashion. Using the example I provided, can’t you see how awful that is? I know I get really worked up and fume and get angry, and I’m sure lots of things said in this post by me earn me some kind of angry liberal label, but we’re all human (yes, even Coulter, even if she doesn’t demonstrate that humanity too often), and I think there needs to a be a degree of respect for people, especially when they’re victims of horrible circumstances….

    “Excuse her for having fun at the expense of your hysteria.”

    It’s not hysteria, she’s just incredibly indecent in my opinion.

    “I know I am more-than-qualified to make the assumption that apparently you DON’T love and accept the GLBT community since you simultaneously find it to be such a wonderful thing to use in regard to insulting Ann Coulter.”

    It’s merely irony, that’s all. Just like if I had a grotesque growth on the side of my neck, but felt a compulsion to call everyone around me ugly. Sure it’s a joke at her expense, but you can’t say she didn’t deserve it. If it turned out she were transgendered, I’d have to kick myself for all the leeway I’d be giving her in that I wouldn’t be joking about it from then on…

    “Did he yet deny it?”

    I sincerely doubt that Olbermann goes on Coulter’s website to find stories about himself…

    “The bottom line is nobody watched Olbermann or any liberal pundit to the point where they hang on their every word”

    You’re right. I have to admit that when she talks, I am genuinely interested in what she has to say. I usually know I’m going to find what she says utterly detestable, but she does get the attention she clearly seeks…

  25. “C’mon Robert, lighten up. You know we love you.”

    I do need to lighten up. I’m getting way too serious, which is uncharacteristic of me…

  26. “No. When you discuss the nature of a word that was only created to disparage an entire people, you don’t get the luxury of separating the two.”

    Depending on the culture and the generation of folks using it, the word “fag” does not imply what it was 100% created for. Neither was “nigger.” Yet, it’s still a true insult to the blacks to act as if homosexuals in this country can even identify with 5% of what they went through it is unfair.

    “You know I can’t do that because republicans make no bones about their disdain for homosexuals”

    Nonsense. Republicans and AMERICA make no bones about their issue with gay marriage. We can debate that as a separate issue, but nowhere does it say anybody hates gays solely because they are gay and says to do so because of religion. And if you have to think of Shirley Phelps (“God Hates Fags”) when you think of Christians, that shows how extreme you are for the other side, buddy.

    “And so what if she were? I guarantee you that no liberal in this country would tear her down for it, unless she makes it a point to question everyone else’s sexuality, which she does. It’s called hypocrisy”

    Nonsense. The idea that Ann Coulter is homophobic is arguable. That means some of us know that she isn’t while someone like you needs her to be in your mind to discount everything she says about the other issues. The fact is it does matter to you enough to call her “Mann Coulter.”

    This is an interesting and important point – so listen hard and maybe you can explain the difference.

    In your view, you and Olbermann are excused for making transexual jokes about Coulter because she may or may not be homophobic….(you with me so far?)

    Basically, “I’ll do it if they do it!”

    But in the case of Islamic Terrorists who would torture you if you if they held you captive, you believe it is our responsibilities as Americans to “cry uncle” first and refrain from dripping water down their noses to protect Americans?

    They’re not doing “crying uncle” Robert.

    So why do you give that inch to their benefit but in the case of Ann Coulter – a fellow American – you find it excusable to insult her on the possibility that she might be a transexual.

    Think about that point long and hard because your excuse there that you give seems to go against everything else you claim to stand for with regard to standing up to our REAL enemies instead of a blond woman you claim to be YOUR enemy.

    “but what if I came in here and accused you of enjoying your brother’s medical problems because it got you sympathy?”

    Actually my brother’s medical bills came to a hair over $150K and only part of that was covered. The rest is being paid for by my family all coming together. Plus, he’s getting back to work now and doing well and will be sending in monthly – even is it’s only $100 a month, he’s paying for his own healthcare and not crying for nationalization. I’m just happy he’s healthy.

    Getting your sympathy makes you a human and it meant a lot to me.

    Cindy Sheehan had my sympathy when her son died. Every family member of 9/11 had my sympathy who lost a loved one.

    But you WOULD be appropriate to call me out on my brother’s problems IF I used it as an argument for nationalized healthcare, to force you through your wages – as well as John, Mel, AFW, Philip, Jenn, and even German sissy boy to shovel out money to pay debt on a national level that belongs to my brother – and by extension my family. He’s my brother and it’s my family.

    Nobody said (even Coulter) that the Jersey Girls weren’t worthy of sympathy. I’m just asking you to portray the messages properly.

    “I sincerely doubt that Olbermann goes on Coulter’s website to find stories about himself…”

    He actually responded today. Funnily enough.

    “I do need to lighten up. I’m getting way too serious, which is uncharacteristic of me…”

    You’re fine. I expected you to argue and you did. Just as it is the other way around.

  27. Ya know. I just had the busiest week of the year so far at work. I just logged in after a few days and read all 30 of these comments as best I could. Robert and Steve – you guys need to form a debating society. My head was about to explode.

    And Noonan definitely needs to go screw him or herself with a rusted pickaxe.

  28. LOL. Robert and I have had some great back-and-forths.

    We love it.

    Noonan is purposeful in making us feel superior just naturally.

  29. “I think she should keep her opinions to herself when all she does is spew garbage.”

    I frequently feel the same way about liberals with whom I strongly disagree, but I don’t insult them. To answer your previous question, hordes of black liberals have called Michael Steele and Condoleeza Rice “Uncle Toms” for being Republicans. Rice was actually labelled the “house nigga” by far-left loony Ted Rall. A slew of liberal activists have been arrested for assault, destruction of property, and other offenses linked with protesting against conservative political candidates.

    Philip, I don’t know about you, but if Noonan doesn’t stop greeting us with “hello gays” I’m just going to start deleting his comments. If he’s not going to give us anything even remotely intelligent he can at least stop talking to us as if we’re lepers.

  30. “Yet, it’s still a true insult to the blacks to act as if homosexuals in this country can even identify with 5% of what they went through it is unfair.”

    I won’t go off and say blacks or gays have it harder. The two communities (both which have gay and black people in them) have very different struggles.

    I know at times I envy black people, Latino people, Asian people and Native American people. Why? Very few can “pass” for a different race whether that attempt to pass is intentional. For the rest of the people of color, who they are color wise is out in the open. It is there from the start. It is always there. They don’t have to come out as black or whatever. I envy that. They don’t have to worry about people turning on them when the truth comes out.

    I know being able to fly under the radar to one degree or another has advantages. But often I get tired of hiding in plain sight. I get fed up wondering if a possible new friend will have a problem with me being gay. Yeah I know it is his problem not my problem. But it would be better if all of it was out in open without saying a word.

  31. “Depending on the culture and the generation of folks using it, the word “fag” does not imply what it was 100% created for. Neither was “nigger.” Yet, it’s still a true insult to the blacks to act as if homosexuals in this country can even identify with 5% of what they went through it is unfair.”

    Right, and at some point, I think you have to ask yourself why she couldn’t have just used the word sissy if that’s what she meant. Every time I wanted to call someone a sissy, I called them a sissy. I grew up around kids who passive-aggressively engaged in homophobia, calling each other fags, just as you’ve explained. And while I understand that they may not be actually hateful towards gays, I just think people should find better outlets to express their frustrations. I also grew up around black neighborhoods, and had to listen to some people calling each other nigga, and now that I’m older, I wonder if they even grasp the concept of what that word actually means.

    “nowhere does it say anybody hates gays solely because they are gay and says to do so because of religion.”

    Well, no one’s gonna come out and say that explicitly. It’s much easier to skirt the issue by saying things like “love the sinner, hate the sin”.

    “And if you have to think of Shirley Phelps (”God Hates Fags”) when you think of Christians, that shows how extreme you are for the other side, buddy.”

    I don’t know who Shirley Phelps is, and I wasn’t using that example of the people with signs as an appropriate example of Christianity. Although that brings up a whole new can of worms, where it’s seemingly okay for conservatives like Michael Weiner (nee Savage) and Neil Boortz (libertarians are conservatives in my view) to classify an entire religion as hateful and murderous. I don’t recall anyone using David Koresh or Tim McVeigh as poster boys for Christianity, but they were certainly fringe elements of that religion.

    “Nonsense. The idea that Ann Coulter is homophobic is arguable”

    You’re right, it is arguable, but certainly not implausible. Read for yourself:

    “A couple [of] alleged males attempted to sucker punch a 100-pound woman and missed. And they ended up with their faces smashed in and spending the night in the Pima County Jail, where I’m sure — being good liberals — their views on gay marriage will serve them well.” The Sean Hannity Show, 10/22/04

    “You don’t want the Republicans in power, does that mean you want a dictatorship, gay boy?” – Indiana University, 2/23/06

    “The fact is it does matter to you enough to call her “Mann Coulter.”

    I’ve already explained the irony behind that. If you can’t appreciate that (and I know you can, you’re merely arguing for the sake of arguing), then there’s something wrong with you. I’m wondering why you weren’t all over George Will when he referred to Coulter as ‘him’…

    “Basically, “I’ll do it if they do it!””

    Right. Much like if I had a super high pitched voice like that kid on Jay Leno, but went around accusing everyone of being effeminate. You’d say “you’re one to talk”, just like anyone would.

    “But in the case of Islamic Terrorists who would torture you if you if they held you captive”

    Okay, you can totally just stop right there. There’s no possible way that you can conflate making an observation to torturing another human being. That is completely ridiculous, and I’m just not gonna go any further down that road.

    “But you WOULD be appropriate to call me out on my brother’s problems IF I used it as an argument for nationalized healthcare”

    Steve, you ought to know by now that I would agree with that sentiment, had you made it earnestly. And what exactly did the Jersey Girls’ use to their advantage? An investigation into 9/11? If that’s all, great, good on them. They never came out and said, vote for Kerry because our husbands died. I’m sure they supported Kerry because he wasn’t Bush. That’s why I did. I would never choose John Kerry to be a nominee for president (I’m sure you can figure out I supported Kucinich back then too), much like lots of you didn’t particularly like John McCain…

    “Nobody said (even Coulter) that the Jersey Girls weren’t worthy of sympathy. I’m just asking you to portray the messages properly.”

    Coulter didn’t even preface her attacks with any sympathy, she just went to work being cruel. I don’t know why you don’t see that.

  32. ” For the rest of the people of color, who they are color wise is out in the open. It is there from the start. It is always there. They don’t have to come out as black or whatever. I envy that. They don’t have to worry about people turning on them when the truth comes out.”

    That is a great point, John, and it’s one that has admittedly, never occurred to me. That must be tough to feel you need to hide who you are.

  33. Yikes, some of your commenters can get really nasty 😦

    I don’t know if any of you listened to Glenn Beck today, he had a gay conservative call in, it was an interesting conversation! -http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/22393/

  34. “He actually responded today. Funnily enough.”

    Yeah, I just saw that tonight. That is funny, he said almost exactly what I did. Weird…

  35. “That is a great point, John, and it’s one that has admittedly, never occurred to me. That must be tough to feel you need to hide who you are.”

    Robert, I do not hide who I am in 99% of the cases. If I am around a group of violent anti gay people then yeah, I’ll lie to protect myself.

    Rather I envy who black people for example can walk into a room and everyone there knows that person is black. They don’t have to guess. They don’t have to whisper among themselves, ‘Is he black?” They don’t have to find a way to ask that person if he or she is black. They know by seeing.

    When you are gay, it’s not always cut and dried. People can play on gay stereotypes and they might be right. But, they tend to speculate, whisper amongst themselves and in some cases ask.

    As ironic as this is, it can be a challenge for one gay person to ask another gay person if they are gay. Who knows how that person will react.

    I don’t know if life would be easier if people automatically knew I was gay upon seeing me. But I do know life would be different.

    Anyway…on it goes in life. I do think people of color have had it harder in gaining civil rights because they can’t hide who they are. I also think being out in the open allows for greater gains in quicker time too.

  36. “I do think people of color have had it harder in gaining civil rights because they can’t hide who they are.”

    But they were able to achieve them because their leaders like Martin Luther King and Rosa Parks had dignity.

    Black History Month always honors these types of heroes.

    Who do we have?

    George Michael, Gay Pride Parades, and “Queer as Folk.”

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