America is a MUSLIM NATION

According to the New York Times today, Barkey had the gumption to claim that America is a Muslim nation on the eve of his trip to the Mideast.

I kid you not.

Here’s his exact words: “And one of the points I want to make is, is that if you actually took the number of Muslim Americans, we’d be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world.”

Oh, no he just didn’t.

He went on to babble about “those who build” as opposed to “those who destroy.” My God, man, do you really think Sunni Muslims in Egypt are going to go along with that crap? Now, all of a sudden, after spending the entire campaign getting all butt-hurt about the use of your middle name and allusions to your Muslim upbringing, NOW you’re talking about your pride in your Islamic heritage. First you denied it, then you decided to embrace it. Then again, you’ve changed your mind suddenly on a lot of things–Jeremiah Wright, taking over the banks, taking over GM, et cetera.

Holy good Godfrey, Barkey is the moodiest president ever to sit in the oval office. Someone give him a Midol already!

I love another one of his little sound bites: “the United States and other parts of the Western world have to educate ourselves more effectively on Islam.”

Okay…newsflash, Mr. President: I HAVE. I own copies of both the Qur’an and the Hadith and I’ve studied both Sunni and Shi’a sects heavily. I understand their beliefs, their laws and their resultant actions. YOU have either missed the lesson, or you’re deliberately misdirecting everyone with your nauseating talk about how we need to educate ourselves and we need to create “dialoge.”

Just so nobody can say they weren’t told the truth, here it is…you tried to create that dialogue with Iran and it didn’t work. Did you not stop to think about that before you started calling for more talking? Of course you didn’t, because you have to appear to be doing something. As long as you’re at least flapping your gums nobody can accuse you of doing nothing (which, in reality, is exactly what you’re doing).

Here’s another tidbit of truth: the Qur’an calls on Muslims to kill all infidels. Sure, they should take care of the widow and the orphan, under the conditions that the widows and orphans are Muslims holding true to Sharia. An infidel is any person who refuses to adhere to Muslim faith and teachings and pray to Allah in the name of Muhammad.

There should be no mistaking exactly what Muslims in the Mideast believe and what their faith commands. Let’s not kid ourselves; there was a reason for 9/11, and it had nothing to do with what our military had done. Those hijackers believed that they were going to be assured a special place in heaven for their act of terrorism, and the belief it was based on was ingrained in them from childhood by the Imams in the nations Obama is paying homage to now.

No, sir, America is NOT a Muslim nation. We are America. If you can’t understand that, then we have a problem.

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42 thoughts on “America is a MUSLIM NATION

  1. “And one of the points I want to make is, is that if you actually took the number of Muslim Americans, we’d be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world.”

    Obamadumbo

    There is one brighter side. We probably have more openly gay people here than any other country on Earth. So I guess America is one of the largest gay countries too.

    Let’s see Obama say that!!!

  2. John, if he has the backbone to admit that we’re one of the largest gay countries in the world because THE MUSLIMS KILL THEM ALL UNDER SHARIA LAW over there, I might just die of shock.

  3. Wow…just…wow…. This may even be funnier than Sean Hannity’s head exploding over what mustard Obama chose….

    I really don’t see how anyone with an fully-formed frontal lobe can infer anything other than him meaning that we’re simply one of the most muslim-FILLED nations… WARNING, comprehension of the previous point may require something called “thinking” lol

    Also, Kimberly Gilfoyle implied on Hannity tonight that the founding fathers would roll over in their graves because of phrases like “In God we Trust” and “Under God”, both of which were added as late as the 1950’s…. but hey, as far as she knows, the founders were born in 1922!

    Basically, those phrases weren’t even part of America for half its history! Also, don’t Muslims believe in god too? Just a thought….

    Oh, and John, sounds like ur a homophobe…

    Btw, I’d just like to say this on every post now, South Dakota voted twice in LANDSLIDES to uphold abortion, as did Colorado. And SD is the most anti-choice state! You’ve never responded on that, so please do this time. I wonder how that fits with your bragging over the gay marriage ballots….

  4. “Also, Kimberly Gilfoyle implied on Hannity tonight that the founding fathers would roll over in their graves because of phrases like “In God we Trust” and “Under God”, both of which were added as late as the 1950’s”

    I was thinking the exact same thing when I was watching that tonight.

    You know, it’s funny that for once, an entire quote was used, and it was still taken out of context. The big word everyone on the right seems to be missing is “IF”. Obama said that IF you were to take the number of Muslims living in America, you’d have one of the biggest Muslim countries. The importance of this is paramount. One of the main reasons that christianists claim this country to be a Christian nation (despite the words “Christ” or “God”, or anything pertaining to religion being absent from any founding document) is the sheer numbers of Christians living here, myself included. And as Obama said, this is not a Christian nation. But, plenty of conservatives insist that it is. Obama is merely using that same logic, but applying it to a different religion, which apparently, drives right wingers even crazier. That being said, IF we were to base something solely on numbers, America would be one of the biggest alcoholic countries on earth. I somehow don’t think that would trigger the same vitriolic response from the right. Apparently, the mere utterance of the word Muslim causes all out, foaming at the mouth hysteria. So much for that tolerance you think you’ve got in spades, eh Mel?

  5. “I understand their beliefs, their laws and their resultant actions”

    Actually, Mel, based on a previous conversation, I don’t think you do. Nor am I claiming to. I just think it’s too overly simplistic to reduce an entire faith to their religious texts, because, as I’ve pointed out before, the Bible, which I don’t fully understand, is wrought with acts of violence that is to be visited on people for doing something as harmless as eating shellfish on Fridays. Are we then to be reduced to that? Should I take literal that your lifestyle is an abomination to God, and encourage society to shun you?

    I assume your answer will entail some reminder that Jesus died for our sins, which is true, but that doesn’t stop fundamentalists from using the Bible as a weapon. And that’s really who you ought to be painting with your broad brush – fundamentalists of Islam. Most Muslims are peaceful and sane, as are most Christians. Every religion could use less radical fundamentalists, and more moderates. Ha, if only the GOP applied this same logic…

  6. “The 1973 Roe versus Wade decision established a woman’s constitutional right to an abortion, at least in the first three months of pregnancy. Would you like to see the Supreme Court completely overturn its Roe versus Wade decision, or not?”

    Yes, overturn: 30%

    No, not overturn: 68%

    Sorry…. :$

  7. Tom, drop the abortion thing on this thread. There’s another thread posted a couple of days ago better suited for that. Stay on topic, willya?

    BOTH OF YOU, please answer this question for me: if Bush had said, “America was founded on Christian principles and I believe we are a Christian nation,” what would you have said? I can think of a few things. Like FIRST AMENDMENT! Or THEOCRACY! As I recall, just for admitting publicly that he was a Christian you all claimed he was trying to found a theocracy in America. Please, don’t give me that “if” bullshit. We all know better because of things that were actually said previously.

    Robert, whether you believe it or not, I do understand far more than you realize. As I said, it’s not just about their holy books, it’s about all the other stuff that goes with them. Have you ever studied Sharia as it is applied today? Have you read the writings of today’s Imams, listened to their speeches? I have. Put it all in context and Mideast Muslims do, in fact, wish for the downfall of America.

  8. “Btw, I’d just like to say this on every post now, South Dakota voted twice in LANDSLIDES to uphold abortion, as did Colorado. And SD is the most anti-choice state! You’ve never responded on that, so please do this time. ”

    Having lived in CA for 20 years now, I have voted No on many ballot measures because I knew on their face they’d never hold up in court. That is one of the negatives of having Initiatives and Referendums. Why waste time and money on lawsuits when a No vote can stop such trouble before it starts?

    Perhaps the people of Colorado and South Dakota looked to the end game and realized they did not have a winnable case in court.

    One final thought, a person can favor a women’s right to choose and disapprove of her getting an abortion. Maybe these so called anti abortion people in South Dakota don’t want to see abortion banned. But, they do want to see women not get pregnant with unwanted children. If they do get pregnant then they don’t perfer they choose abortion.

    Pro life and Anti life people are not all the same. People in the anti life crowd have their limits. I don’t think most of them would approve of a woman getting an abortion at 36 weeks because she changed her mind about having a baby.

  9. “Oh, and John, sounds like ur a homophobe…”

    Robert

    How so? Being openly gay and being a homophobe is the same as being in two different places at the exact same time. That is not possible.

    My original comment referred to the absurdity of Obamadumbo’s remark. America has over 300,000,000 in it. Taking any religion, ethnicity, or race and yes America has enough people in that cohort to be one of the largest (fill in the blank) on Earth. So what?

  10. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31086135/?gt1=43001

    First up, Robert I attributed a comment to you when it was from Tom. I apologize.

    Second up, America is not a Christian nation according to this whacked out panel of judges from the above case.

    It’s Show and Tell in school. Unless a kid is unfurling a Playboy centerfold all hobbies and interests are fair game.

    I hope this mom takes this to the Supreme Court. She should win on a 9-0 vote.

  11. “BOTH OF YOU, please answer this question for me: if Bush had said, “America was founded on Christian principles and I believe we are a Christian nation,” what would you have said?”

    I would have said he was wrong. And had Obama proclaimed that America was founded on Islamic principles I would have said he was wrong AND stupid. But he didn’t say that. You’re feigning outrage as if he did.

    Speaking of outrage and the first amendment, why hasn’t Bush caught any flak from you folks here in light of the revelations that he was receiving daily intelligence reports on the war prefaced with biblical quotes? The man was on a freaking crusade, and republicans want to lash out at Obama for being on an “apology tour”? This country has a lot of apologizing to do for what went on under the previous administration. If that pisses you off, I suggest you direct that anger at the people who put us in the position that we have to apologize in the first place…

  12. “America has over 300,000,000 in it. Taking any religion, ethnicity, or race and yes America has enough people in that cohort to be one of the largest (fill in the blank) on Earth. So what?”

    That’s precisely my point. So what?

  13. “Please, don’t give me that “if” bullshit. We all know better because of things that were actually said previously.”

    Yeah, like this:

    “Although we have a very large Christian population, we do NOT consider ourselves a Christian nation, or a Jewish nation, OR A MUSLIM NATION. We consider ourselves a nation of citizens, who are bound by ideals.”

    -President Obama, 4/06/09

    Hm, there’s that population thing again….

  14. First off, Tom you are a massive abortion extremist. But while we are on the topic of abortionists and Muslims and pro-lifers, I’d like to take this opportunity to rattle off somemore statistics to Tom since he’s the master of such:

    Straight from Ann Coulter’s latest column: (go ahead and try to refute one of these facts)

    “For years, we’ve had to hear about the grave threat that Americans might overreact to a terrorist attack committed by 19 Muslims shouting “Allahu akbar” as they flew commercial jets into American skyscrapers. That would be the equivalent of 19 pro-lifers shouting “Abortion kills a beating heart!” as they gunned down thousands of innocent citizens in Wichita, Kan.”

    “Why aren’t liberals rushing to assure us this time that “most pro-lifers are peaceful”? Unlike Muslims, pro-lifers actually are peaceful. ”

    “According to recent polling, a majority of Americans oppose abortion — which is consistent with liberals’ hysterical refusal to allow us to vote on the subject. In a country with approximately 150 million pro-lifers, five abortionists have been killed since Roe v. Wade.”

    “In that same 36 years, more than 49 million babies have been killed by abortionists. Let’s recap that halftime score, sports fans: 49 million to five.

    Meanwhile, fewer than 2 million Muslims live in America and, while Muslims are less murderous than abortionists, I’m fairly certain they’ve killed more than five people in the United States in the last 36 years. For some reason, the number “3,000” keeps popping into my head.

    So in a country that is more than 50 percent pro-life — and 80 percent opposed to the late-term abortions of the sort performed by Tiller — only five”

    Read it and love it, Tommy.

  15. “That’s precisely my point. So what?”

    Then why is Obamadumbo bothering to mention such a silly and absurd fact? Perhaps he is speaking to an audience of idiots?

    You mentioned we have a lot to apologize for? Apologize for what? We didn’t fly airplanes into buildings? We did not start this trouble. But we have begun to finish it.

    Every foe that has attacked U.S. soil has at best fought to a stalemate or was crushed beyond recognition. The 9-1-1 hijackers should have learned the history of this county and understood they were starting a fight that at best end in a draw but more likely will end in a crushing defeat.

  16. Unfortunately for you Steve, your dyslexia caught up with you again. Could you even READ my messages please?

    To repeat what I said, Republicans can only brag about polls that ask about labels, which anyone can interpret however they want. Some “pro-lifers” oppose abortion but don’t want that view imposed on others.

    The proof of this inaccuracy in polling is confirmed with REAL polls that act SPECIFIC POLICY-RELATED questions. For example….

    You’re not going to like this….

    “The 1973 Roe versus Wade decision established a woman’s constitutional right to an abortion, at least in the first three months of pregnancy. Would you like to see the Supreme Court completely overturn its Roe versus Wade decision, or not?”

    Yes, overturn: 30%

    No, not overturn: 68%

    Sorry…. :$

    Additionally, Ann Coulter is wrong in saying that people haven’t voted on it. People HAVE voted on it on ballot initiatives THREE times in the past 3 years. All 3 of which resulted in LANDSLIDES to uphold the legality of abortion. TWO of those landslides were in South Dakota, the most PRO-LIFE state!

    South Dakota, after having banned abortion in 2006 via state legislature, sent it to the people to decide directly via ballot initiative, and what they found was that their constitutuency is much less radical than their elected representatives, as they(the people) overwhelmingly voted to overturn the ban.

    A more moderate ban was proposed on a similar initiative in 2008, this time with an exception for rape, guess what…it failed in another landslide. Colorado joined in on the onlsaught by voted with a majority of over 70% to uphold abortion.

    Ann Coulter will never inform you of this, because her job is not to inform, it’s the excite and please her devout fans who worship her.

  17. Here’s a digest,

    South Dakota voted twice via ballot initiative in landslides to uphold abortion, despite a more moderate form being presented the second time. Colorado voted even more overwhelmingly to uphold abortion, and 68% of Americans support Roe v. Wade.

    It’s always been funny how eager neocons are to gobble up any poll fed to them that says something about how people label themselves.

    That’s the only time they win, it’s when they ask about labels. When specific questions are asked, the result is disappointing for them, so don’t expect them to be used by Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity and the like.

  18. What, exactly WHAT do WE have to apologize for?!? We didn’t support the 19 men who flew four hijacked jetliners into three major American iconic buildings and one empty field. We didn’t support the wholesale murder of thousands of innocent people based on our religion.

    Robert, where on Earth do you get some of the odd things you say here? Intelligence reports preceded by bible verses? I didn’t even see that blurb on the regular liberal MSM sites, so please, link something that tells me I can trust that claim. Of course, I am talking to a guy that supports a “soldier’s” organization mainly comprised of fakers who like to drape the flag on the front porch of the collective hippie-house as a doormat.

    I’m also talking to a guy who eschews the concept that Vietnam vets returning from THAT war weren’t really spat on and assaulted for wearing the uniform and being called baby killers. My father was in the US Navy right after that conflict ended and even he was hated. I’ve worked with Vietnam vets who come to tears when they hear about people who claim that was made up, because they WERE treated exactly in the manner which you refuse to believe.

    The “if” scenario was at the beginning of the comment. You have to read the whole thing. Just because he said “IF the rest of the world would look” does not mean he meant that we’re only a Muslim nation as long as they take that position. He was making clear that he wants to bill America as a Muslim nation to the Mideast countries that harbor terrorists.

    And now the news has come out today that the White House may actually have ordered the FBI to stop investigating homegrown jihadists, including the piece of shit who shot two of our soldiers in Little Rock this week.

    Barkey is gonna get us all killed.

  19. “What, exactly WHAT do WE have to apologize for?!?”

    Are you serious? Well, for starters, how about for the war of choice that we started, which resulted in the deaths of a million (give or take) Iraqis, and the displacement of another four million? How about for turning Saddam’s torture prison into our own torture prison? How about for giving the impression that we started some kind of holy war? How about for purchasing Muslims from warlords at $5,000 a pop, resulting in releasing 500 “enemy combatants” from Gitmo? America has made mistakes, and it always irks me when conservatives pretend that America can do no wrong. I mean, even a child understands when they do something wrong…

    “Robert, where on Earth do you get some of the odd things you say here? Intelligence reports preceded by bible verses? I didn’t even see that blurb on the regular liberal MSM sites, so please, link something that tells me I can trust that claim.”

    You really haven’t heard this? Oh, man. There was a story in GQ about this last month. Apparently, this stuff was leaked by Donald Rumsfeld’s former staff.

    http://men.style.com/gq/features/topsecret

    That just puts this quote in total context:

    “This crusade, this war on terrorism is going to take a while.”

    -George W. Bush 9/16/01

    “I’m also talking to a guy who eschews the concept that Vietnam vets returning from THAT war weren’t really spat on and assaulted for wearing the uniform and being called baby killers”

    All I said was it’s never been proven. It may have happened, and I’m sure that you could find a Vietnam Vet that says that it did, but my father in law served and he said when he came back, he never saw anything close to anyone being spat upon. There’s no evidence to prove that it happened, but there is evidence that proves war protesters were killed, ala Kent State.

    “He was making clear that he wants to bill America as a Muslim nation to the Mideast countries that harbor terrorists.”

    It’s also clear that he explicitly said, in no uncertain terms, that America is not a Muslim nation. But you’d rather ignore that to pretend to be outraged at something so insignificant. Do carry on…

    “And now the news has come out today that the White House may actually have ordered the FBI to stop investigating homegrown jihadists, including the piece of shit who shot two of our soldiers in Little Rock this week.”

    The words ‘may have’ should not be included in any news story. That sounds incredibly circumstantial, and may require some proof before you go off half cocked. I’m also curious to know how outraged you’d be to find out that a Marine recruiter was pimping a 14 year old girl in order to entice young men to sign up…

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31078671/

  20. “Some “pro-lifers” oppose abortion but don’t want that view imposed on others.”

    Like me. It’s as simple as this: if you oppose abortion, don’t get one. But I digress, Mel is right, there is already a thread for this topic…

  21. “South Dakota voted twice via ballot initiative in landslides to uphold abortion, despite a more moderate form being presented the second time. Colorado voted even more overwhelmingly to uphold abortion, and 68% of Americans support Roe v. Wade.”

    Did anyone both to poll the voters and ask why they voted the way they did?

    SCOTUS is made up of the following when it comes to abortion:

    Thomas, Scalia, Alito and Roberts for sure would overturn Roe. vs. Wade.

    That’s four votes. Five are needed. Which way would Anthony Kennedy go?

    If you are pro life and fear Kennedy is going to vote against you then don’t give him the chance.

    Here in CA foes of same sex marriage were only too happy to see the CA Supreme Court take this issue on. With 5 of the 7 justices appointed by Republican Governors, how on Earth could they lose? Well, they did lose.

  22. “This country has a lot of apologizing to do for what went on under the previous administration. ”

    We have nothing to apologize for. The nations that tolerate, shelter, or support terrorists have plenty of apologies to make. They’ve had such obligations for decades.

    When does Syrian President Assad go on his apology tour? When does the President of Sudan issue his mea culpa for Darfur?

  23. “When does Syrian President Assad go on his apology tour? When does the President of Sudan issue his mea culpa for Darfur?”

    When they grow some balls…

  24. Tom – it’s simply always a thrill watching progressives defend the honor of abortion every chance they get. That’s why the humor involving Coulter’s latest column was appropriate here.

    Finally, your “polls” don’t make up or count for the folks who would like first-trimester procedures reserved for women whose lives are in danger. Moreover; our courts finally got partial birth abortion banned ACCEPT in the case of mother’s life.

    Americans are compassionate and sensible. But more than half would not use abortion unless their own lives are in danger.

    Your portrayal that this is an abortion-loving country actually kind of shows that perhaps something super important is missing from your life.

    Hmmm…what could that be?

  25. In the South Dakota case, we debated this before. As I stated above, many residents of South Dakota WOULD HAVE voted to overturn abortion IF there was a stipulation providing for woman’s life issues.

    South Dakota does not support all-out abortion for just any reason.

  26. Nice use of personal attacks Steve. That’s really telling of how secure you are. Although I understand, you are losing pretty bad 😉

    The SD abortion bad DID have an exception for the woman’s life. The second initiative even had an exception for rape in order to be more moderate, and it was still voted down in a landslide. Colorado joined in, voted with over 70% of a majority to uphold abortion. California similarly voted three times in a row against parental notification for minors’ abortions. Despite all of these, people like you cling to your adorable little “polls” that say how people label themselves regardless of reality.

    This battle is hopeless for you Steve lol. Maintain your dignity. Don’t be like Norm Coleman…

  27. “It’s as simple as this: if you oppose abortion, don’t get one. ”

    What a ridiculous and flawed argument. How about “if you don’t like slavery, don’t own slaves!” Legality and morality aren’t the same thing.

  28. Okay, this is rapidly turning into a debate about abortion (thanks, Tom). I’ve taken the liberty of addressing Katie’s comments in the proper thread, “Pointing The Finger”…

  29. “This battle is hopeless for you Steve lol. Maintain your dignity. Don’t be like Norm Coleman…”

    LOL. Well, much like Al Franken, your fire and ideas are hardly what one would could rely on to survive in a fair and free market – so yes, I am sure our bureaucracy will bail you out by handing you a government job, too.

    Because all those abortion-loving Americans are tuning in to hear Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh, Franken couldn’t quite take the heat. What better bandaid than to steal an election?

  30. “Because all those abortion-loving Americans are tuning in to hear Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh,”

    lol

    Once again Steve, radio show ratings do not represent a country

    I’m wondering if I should tell you about something called “election results” lol

    LOL Sure, he STOLE it! Yet when Al Gore says that he’s just a sore loser isn’t he? Not to mention the fact that Gore actually won the popular vote lol.

  31. Yes when Franken votes miraculously turn up from cars of election workers and only heavily Democratic counties are counted. Whereas the entire state of Florida was re-counted I believe about 13 times in the case of Al Gore.

    The point is, Franken could not survive in the free market as a comedian, an author, or a DJ. He’s uninteresting. If he was, and successful, he wouldn’t have ran for Senate to make his living from taxpayers.

  32. “Not to mention the fact that Gore actually won the popular vote lol.”

    So did Hillary in the primary. Obama selected, not elected. LMAO.

  33. “Yes when Franken votes miraculously turn up from cars of election workers and only heavily Democratic counties are counted”

    Steve, that didn’t actually happen. The ballots were never in anyone’s car for several days, the ballots were never lost or forgotten, and spent Election Night until counting day in secure city facilities. Not only that, but they weren’t all for Franken. And even if they were, 32 votes isn’t really a tie breaker, considering he’s ahead by over 300 votes…

    “Whereas the entire state of Florida was re-counted I believe about 13 times in the case of Al Gore.”

    That also never happened. Two counties (Broward and Volusia) were included in the recount (out of the four that were requested), and even that wasn’t complete because the Supreme Court put a stop to the counting.

    “The point is, Franken could not survive in the free market as a comedian, an author, or a DJ. He’s uninteresting”

    I can’t really argue with that. I enjoyed his book “Lies and the Lying Liars who Tell Them: A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right”, but his radio show bored me to tears. I hated that show…

    “So did Hillary in the primary. Obama selected, not elected. LMAO”

    Again, not true. the only scenario in which Clinton wins the primary is if you count Florida and Michigan, where Obama wasn’t on the ballot and didn’t campaign, AND you count her caucus wins (where votes aren’t actually counted, and must be estimated). As a matter of fact, Clinton got less votes than ‘uncommitted’ in Michigan. In the end, Obama won the popular vote by over 134,000 votes.

  34. “Obama won the popular vote by over 134,000 votes.”

    Yes he did and now he is the President going around the world apologizing for things we did not start but are trying to finish. I bet he confesses to kidnapping Patty Hearst next and takes responsbility for the Lindberg baby too.

    This won’t work. All it will do is make us appear weak. We owe no apologies. But we are owed plenty of apologies.

  35. “As a matter of fact, Clinton got less votes than ‘uncommitted’ in Michigan. In the end, Obama won the popular vote by over 134,000 votes.”

    I’m sure she says the same thing now that she’s Secretary of State.

  36. Tom –

    Here is a Gallup Poll and an article:

    http://www.gallup.com/video/107452/Americans-Views-Abortion-Remain-Static.aspx

    “A majority of Americans (54%) say that abortion should be legal only under certain circumstances, a number that has barely budged over the past few years.”

    Not one conservative in this forum has ever advocated taking away abortion without any conversation whatsoever on what the circumstances were – I know I haven’t and I know Mel hasn’t, John, etc.

    We are not pro-life extremists in the sense that we have tunnel vision with one goal in mind; which is to take away all abortion from every person regardless.

    The premise to your complaints in these forums begins with the insinuations that we are extreme on this; when in essence, we simply agree that is is sad that 40M+ babies have been slaughtered since Roe V Wade was legislated.

    In hindsight, you are the one who is extreme about his position as someone who is pro-abortion. You’re extreme about your position as an atheist, flag-burning, etc.

    It’s not a personal attack to suggest that something is wrong with someone who has such extreme views – who would still to this day compare aborting an innocent baby to executing a man who tortured, murdered, or raped.

    You’re the one with those problems. The polls over and over again prove that Americans agree to not overturn Roe V Wade ONLY IF provisions are made making it illegal in some circumstances and legal in others.

    That proof; in and of itself, shows the minds of true moderates who know not to compare murderers and rapists to babies. That’s the majority and it’d be best off for yourself at your young age to find your true identity if you stopped fooling yourself into believing that your positions fall within mainstream public opinion.

  37. Steve, if you keep calling yourself pro-life and clamoring for executions, than there is definitely something wrong there that you have to figure out yourself because apparently you need some English lessons. Go to dictionary.com and look at the definition of “life”, the prefix “pro” and finally, “death”.

    I’m not confused Steve, you are. You keep mentioning irrelevant topics. I know your upset that flag-burning is legal. You’re a Republican. You’re insecure and insist that people be punished for offending your delicate right-wing ego. It’s the same as the crazy liberals who support the bogus fairness doctrine. Banning flag-burning is just so cartoonishly authoritarian and contradictory to what this nation brags about that you’d have to have a mental illness of some sort. You might as well replace the American flag with that of the British. At least it would be consistent with the extremist reversal of American values.

    Ann Coulter says Democrats won’t let people vote on abortion, but her problem is the people HAVE voted on it THREE times, all of which resulted in landslide victories for choice. I too would probably be enraged if I were you, having to listen to people to console me after my side lost two elections in a row.

    Oh, and btw, contrary to what Ann Coulter says, Obama’s victory was bigger than Reagan’s in 1980. Reagan only won 51.6% of the popular vote! Obama won almost 53% to give you a contrast. OH NO YOUR MESSIAH IS THREATENED…. Somewhere Sean Hannity is crying^^

  38. Tom, while you’ve got your dictionary out, maybe you should check out the words “guilty” and “innocent.”

  39. And Katie, maybe you should check out the entire phrase “changing the subject.”

    And “inbred” as well, you’ll see why lol

  40. Tom, YOU changed the subject. This was supposed to be about Obama’s inference that America is a Muslim nation and you started that abortion racket. And if all you’re going to do is insult people, then don’t post.

    Steve…you were responding to Tom. He’s got a history of showing up to yell about abortion rights on posts that have nothing to do with that subject.

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