You KNOW It’s Gotten Bad…

Most of the people in my life are ardently against universal healthcare. They are against it either because they are afraid of losing their private coverage and their right to choose their care or because they’re in the healthcare system (like me) and they know full well what the consequences will be of rationing healthcare. Gunshot wounds, childbirths, stabs, people run over by cars, projectile vomiting–EMT’s and paramedics can handle it all. If you really wanna see us squirm, walk into our station and start a conversation about universal healthcare.

There’s a lot of very good reasons why the vast, overwhelming majority of doctors, nurses and paramedics don’t want to see universal healthcare become a reality. Obama may have a handful in his pocket, but if you look closely, they’re all interconnected to him and his cabinet somehow. Not the least of those doctors is none other than the brother of Rahm Emmanuel. Of course they’re going to toot the horn for universal healthcare; they’ll be on the inside, free of the worry of being at the mercy of the government system. It should speak volumes when the President is not willing to say unequivocally that he’d put his own family on that plan. When asked if he’d do that last week, he stuttered, fumbled and then refused to give a real answer.

If George W. Bush had done that, he’d have been tarred and feathered.

Universal healthcare is a nightmare that people from Canada, England, Ireland, Spain and Japan are begging us here in the United States not to adopt. I have friends from each one of those countries now living here in the US, and all say that the government healthcare programs in their home countries were part of what drove them to the US to begin with. One friend found out she had cervical cancer after being told by her doctor in Belfast at age 23 that she wouldn’t need that test until she was 25 years old; doctors there were being rewarded for denying tests and care in an effort to save money. Another watched his grandfather die a slow and painful death because the government of Spain refused to pay for a kidney transplant that would have saved his life–because he was too old. Yet another buried his son in Japan after he was hit by a car; the college student could have been saved if the paramedics called to rescue him hadn’t been forced to sit in a parking lot for two hours, trying to find a hospital capable of taking him. Stories like these are horrors to us because of the free market that healthcare now is.

Do you really still think that won’t happen here? Are you really still convinced that the government will truly have your best interests at heart? If you are, click here and read what even the liberal financial analysts are saying about HR 3200.

Because when even the left-leaning bean-counters are astounded, you know it’s gotten bad.

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11 thoughts on “You KNOW It’s Gotten Bad…

  1. Don’t we already ration health care? My former boss died of liver cancer. His age and other underlying medical problems did not make him a candidate for a liver transplant.

    My mom is afflicated with stage 1 breast cancer. She is in remission. I know it must have cost at least $50K to treat her to date. My mom is in her early 70’s. Do you think $50K would be spent if she were in her early 90’s?

    I do not favor universal health care because I don’t trust the government to run a business. People who have the skill and talent to do such things don’t work on the cheap. I don’t see Uncle Sam paying the money necessary to attract top quality people. When you hire second rate employees you get a second rate enterprise if you are lucky.

  2. “There’s a lot of very good reasons why the vast, overwhelming majority of doctors, nurses and paramedics don’t want to see universal healthcare become a reality”

    That really isn’t the truth, and I think it would behoove you to stop pretending that it is. I know people in three states that work in the medical field, including one in my own family, and not only are none of them ramping up fear mongering and engaging in hyperbole, but they’re all overwhelmingly in favor of outright socialized medicine, which this bill doesn’t even contain. Physicians for a National Health Program is 16,000 members strong, and even the American Medical Association has reversed its previous position and come out in support of this bill, which is off putting, to say the least.

    “Universal healthcare is a nightmare that people from Canada, England, Ireland, Spain and Japan are begging us here in the United States not to adopt.”

    Also grossly overblown and deceptive. 92% approve of the services and quality of care rendered by NHS (UK), and Canadians are not flocking to the US for treatment for they cannot receive in their own country. I know that it does happen, but not nearly as often as conservatives would like us to think. Many are American ex-pats who simply opted to keep their doctors, and for some, facilities in the US are closer than the nearest ones in Canada. In most if not all of these countries where health care is universal, not even the right wingers want to abolish the system they have. I have personally heard out the mouths of Norwegian government officials, conservatives, that they love the health care system and would never dream of dismantling it.

    The more I think about it, the more I come to the conclusion that the cons in this country are so opposed to this because they know that if it passes, that no one will vote for a republican again, because it will have been the democrats that provided the masses with the gift of health.

  3. “Don’t we already ration health care? ”

    Absolutely. We also have wait times, but the way most opposed to reform tell it, every other country is plagued by rationing and long wait times. Never mind the fact that they all have longer life expectancies, lower infant mortality rates, and higher quality of life. We’re the best though, that’s all there is to it…

  4. “The more I think about it, the more I come to the conclusion that the cons in this country are so opposed to this because they know that if it passes, that no one will vote for a republican again, because it will have been the democrats that provided the masses with the gift of health.”

    Plus the the gift of higher taxes to pay for it too.

    Thin Tina who will get angry when she sees Three Ton Tony wolfing down a box of Krispy Kremes knowing she’ll have to pay for his triple bypass.

  5. “Absolutely. We also have wait times, but the way most opposed to reform tell it, every other country is plagued by rationing and long wait times. ”

    There is a huge night and day difference when an insurance company tells you No or makes you wait and when the U.S. Government does it.

    The people of this country will never accept the Government telling them No.

  6. “The people of this country will never accept the Government telling them No.”

    There’s also a huge difference in that no one in countries with universal health care gets told no. They may have to wait to get their ingrown toenail taken care of because someone’s got cancer, but no is never an answer.

  7. “Plus the the gift of higher taxes to pay for it too.”

    You ought to do a survey and ask people if they’d rather pay a higher tax or a higher premium each year. I guarantee that the tax will be lower than the rise in premiums that are guaranteed to rise year after year.

  8. “There’s also a huge difference in that no one in countries with universal health care gets told no.”

    You call me an idiot? Less than 3 weeks ago I saw a story about a British woman on ABC News. She had colon cancer. Her cancer had spread to her lungs. There was a drug that could prolong her life. The British National Health Service told her No because the cost of the drug was not worth the additional life expectancy she might get.

    This woman got the drug by paying for it out of her own pocket.

    Don’t tell me people in nations with universal health care do not get told No. From a dollars and cents perspective, No is a necessity.

    Imagine a man who is 85 years old and he has prostate cancer that has spread into his bones. His condition is not terminal. But he is seriously ill and will die of cancer without intervention.

    He has already lived past his life expectancy. In order to treat him it will cost $200,000 with no guarantees he’ll gain remission. Do you think this man is going to be given the treatment? If he wants it, then should he get it?

  9. My great-grandmother was diagnosed with breast cancer about six years before she died. If she hadn’t been treated we would have lost her sooner than we did. If she had been dependent upon universal health care, they would have refused to spend the money to treat her because she was too old and was likely to die soon anyway.

    It happens all the time in all of the other countries that operate this kind of system.

  10. “My great-grandmother was diagnosed with breast cancer about six years before she died. If she hadn’t been treated we would have lost her sooner than we did. If she had been dependent upon universal health care, they would have refused to spend the money to treat her because she was too old and was likely to die soon anyway.”

    Exactly and our nation will not tolerate the government telling people No. We are not the land of No. Americans do not take No for an answer. This belief system is over 200 years old.

    I know from a dollars and cents viewpoint, certain medical treatment plans are foolish. But, as a nation we will not allow our government to treat people like dogs and put them down against their objections because it costs too much to keep a person alive.

  11. The VA is government run health insurance, and it’s quite often terrible, long waits, most private doctors won’t take VA patients or even active duty military because the government won’t even give them enough money to cover the cost of the treatment so every time a doctor takes one they lose money since they can’t even break even. Most doctors that will take the VA insurance or Tricare (the active duty insurance), only do it because they want to help veterans or active duty members because they either have a family member who was in the military, they used to be, or they feel it is their patriotic duty. Sometime a patient can even get the treatment anywhere near them because their isn’t a military base close enough that has the facilities and there are no private doctors or hospitals that will take them (unless it’s an emergency). Now take this and expand it to the whole country, and that’s your “Free Health Care”, if the government can’t or won’t take care of veterans what are they going to do to you? Most veterans only use the VA if they have too, such as if they cannot afford private insurance or for service related disabilities or conditions that a private insurance company will not cover.

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