Marilyn Manson’s Threat

I just read something that strikes me as absolutely hilarious. FOX News reports that shock rocker Marilyn Manson has made a direct threat: “If one more ‘journalist’ makes a cavalier statement about me and my band, I will personally or with my fans’ help, greet them at their home and discover just how much they believe in their freedom of speech. I dare you all to write one more thing that you won’t say to my face. Because I will make you say it. In that manner. That is a threat.”

I’m not sure what’s funnier…saying he’ll do it himself or that he’ll get his fans to do it. Can you possibly be serious?

Now, I’ll admit that there have been songs I found myself enjoying that turned out to be Manson songs. I listen to grunge and heavy metal. But the bands that I like actually have talent; they don’t rely solely on their shock value to gain a following. That is the only driving force behind Marilyn Manson’s popularity: the shock factor. Every time I see a group of “disenfranchised youth” waiting for a Manson concert, they all look the same. Black clothes(layered, of course, and torn to shreds), neon hair, and makeup, all done to make them look like freaks.

We ARE freaks, they say. We’re the ones nobody wants. We’re the castaways, the ones with no talent, the unpopular ones, and YOU religious nuts, YOU MADE US THIS WAY!!!

Oh, please. Gag me.

You know what? I was bullied all the time as a kid. There are times when it still affects me, but I do not let it rule my life. Some of you guys have no idea what it’s like to be beaten to a pulp in the locker room because one of your junior-high classmates told the popular girl that you liked her. A person largely becomes an outcast because they allow it to happen. You cannot blame it on religion, your parents, your teachers or your classmates. You’re an asshole because you want to be that way.

I’m almost completely sleeved out. I have piercings. Sometimes, I even let them show. I do not wear a chip on my shoulder and beg people to knock it off. You can express yourself without needing to go to the extreme, and that’s all Manson knows how to do. His fans have followed suit.

Manson, don’t send your fans, because that will have all the ambiance of a traditional lynching. Spend your own money and have the balls to go completely on your own. Don’t hide behind your army of fans who’d kill for you because you don’t have the balls to take someone else on intelligently.

And for Chrissakes, grow up. All of you.


32 thoughts on “Marilyn Manson’s Threat

  1. Marilyn Manson is still around? Well…that’s news. I thought his 15 minutes ran out after covering that Eurythmics song and appearing in a Michael Moore movie.

    I guess his threat is another play at much needed publicity?

    Speaking of music…I am totally curious here. All of you please do share. What kinds of music and recording artists do you like?

    I pesonally love Modern Rock and Punk Rock. But I also enjoy some Opera and Folk music. If I had to pick a band I listen to most often it would be Incubus.

    I have seen Madonna live in concert. I think in order to be gay it is sort of required LOL. I enjoyed the show. I am not much of a concert goer.

    I’d love to see Pink Floyd with Roger Waters in the mix. That would be one Heaven for me.

  2. I grew up on my dad’s rock ‘n roll–Led Zeppelin, Kansas, Don McLean, Chicago, The Eagles (they’re still a fave). For a long time I pretended to listen to nothing but Christian rap and rock, but I was really jamming to Nirvana, Metallica, Megadeath, and Pearl Jam.

    Today I like a wide variety (which, I feel it necessary to point out, will NEVER AGAIN include rap), from Josh Groban to Disturbed. Disturbed is my favorite band, but I also like Incubus, Dave Matthews, Staind, Tonic/Emerson Hart, John Mayer, you name it.

    I do NOT like Madonna. Her old stuff is okay, and I remember hearing it a lot on the radio (and the major dustup that “Just Like a Prayer” caused in my church). Melissa Etheridge is okay, but she wrote that song for Al Gore’s crockumentary. I guess I’m not a very good lesbian!

  3. Dang. I’m torn on this one, because on the one hand, that’s a bizarre thing (even for him) to say, and on the other…I own his Best Of album.
    I think I’m going with “I like his music, but all that absinthe has scalded his brain.”

    You’re partly right about the outcast bit, imho. I was an outcast through high school simply because I was forced to be around people who honestly didn’t like me at all–so naturally, my reaction was to try to stay as far away from them as possible.

    But YES, I definitely agree that the teens (and others) who rely on shock value without any kind of substance are serious pains in the butt.
    They also help devalue the various subcultures imho, but that’s just me up on my soapbox a little.

  4. Marilyn Manson makes horrible fucking music. Just awful. I knew these douchebag kids in high school that just ate that shit up. Me, I’m all about punk. Nothing as old as what John listened to (oldest stuff I listen to is Bad Religion, Minor Threat, Descendents, and Gorilla Biscuits). My favorite band is MxPx. I also love Lagwagon, Pennywise, NOFX, Screeching Weasel, Face to Face, and Anti-Flag, to name a few. I don’t have much tolerance when it comes to other forms of music (except emo (real emo, ala the Get up Kids and old Jimmy Eat World, not that My Chemical Romance bullshit), pop punk, happy hardcore, pretty much anything that falls under the punk rock umbrella). My ex wife used to drag me to the symphony, which I must admit, while I’m not a fan of whatever the hell genre that falls under, you have to appreciate how all the music and sounds come together so perfectly, like everyone knows their part. It’s actually quite a nice evening out.

    Also, is it just me, or do the best friggin punk bands come out of New Jersey? Bigwig, Lifetime, Saves the Day, Midtown, the Bouncing Souls, the Crosstown Rivalry, Hidden in Plain View, Senses Fail, and the Early November all hail from the Garden State. Fertile punk scene, that Jersey…

  5. Well for me, Madonna is numero uno. She’s gotten crazy with age but she’s been around as long as Elvis’s and Michael Jackson’s careers had spanned.

    Musical tastes vary. 80’s like the Go-Go’s, country like Sara Evans, oldies like Janis Joplin….those are good. Fleetwood Mac and Stevie Nicks were great as well.

    I tend to like everything the 80’s represented though. The excess of the 80’s made everything seem attainable. The sports cars, the rubix cube, Don Johnson’s outfits, the Carrington Mansion on Dynasty, and of course a cool President that stood over it all.

    Funny when Michael passed, I started seeing the old footage of Michael and Reagan when he met the President and Nancy.

    Then, USA For Africa did “We Are The World!”

    That was a time where people didn’t take from others. It was a time where the intrinsic nature of Americans was alive and people gave what they could including musical artists and political leaders to inspire growth and prosperity.

    Other than the AIDS epidemic and Rock Hudson, I’d take those days back in a heartbeat.

  6. Oh hell, and I ALWAYS catch the band “Chicago” every year they come home and I sit at the Charter One Pavillion next Lake Michigan on Lake Shore Drive downtown outside during the summer and think “how can one band be responsible for so much good music!?”

  7. Steve, you know I love you dearly, but the 80’s?

    I still love some of the music from back then, but I mostly laugh at that era. It’s as if we really thought we’d made it to the future but didn’t have a clue.

  8. Robert, I personally love the symphony. Then again, I learned to read music by spending many years playing the clarinet in school bands.

    As far as punk goes, my favorite is Flogging Molly. I also love AFI (most of all their pre-Sing The Sorrow works). Less Than Jake, Five Iron Frenzy, and yes, MxPx (I knew who they were before anybody in secular music did).

  9. Marilyn Manson is an idiot. I’d love to see him show up at someone’s house and have his ass kicked.

    And as for music, I listen to a little bit of nearly everything. The husband is (and has always been) a metal-head. I knew he loved me when he not only burned me a Neil Diamond cd, but he put it on in the car for me when we were driving.

    The oldest daughter listens to country on her good days and things like My Chemical Romance on her bad days. I previously outlawed anything ever done by Fall Out Boy despite her protesting because Pete Wentz’s penchant for skinny jeans makes me puke in my mouth a little.

    The second daughter listens to show tunes and classical. She has been known to burst into a round of “I Feel Pretty” or “I’m Gonna Wash That Man Right Out of My Hair” as she’s doing dishes.

    The third daughter listens to southern rock, with a particular love of Skynard.

    The boy listens to what I can only classify as “beer drinking music.”

    I have no idea how this happened – my kids range in age from 17 to 6 and we’ve always had a lot of music in our house. They branched out early. 🙂

  10. AFW, Marilyn Manson wouldn’t get his ass kicked no matter how much all of us would love such an incident. You see, he doesn’t have the cojones to show up all alone and get in someone’s face. He’d have his personal bodyguards with him to do the fighting for him.

    Any big star would do that. None of them are really as tough as they want everyone to think they are. That’s why Manson added the “…or with the help of my fans” line. He knows he won’t do it.

  11. Gurl, ;-)…..YES the 80’s. The 80’s represented the last era of when long-lasting stars originated. Prince, Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, and of course – MADONNA. These artists and their work have transcended in such a way that a time sense is hard to detect because music from that time was not only good, but the songs were original verses that were catchy in which they live on forever.

    The “big rock stars” ended after that era. We got Paula Abdul, Color Me Badd, Backstreet Boys, NSync, Britney, and even when people compared “Ace of Base” to “ABBA.” Not!!!

    Late 70’s – early 80’s represent long living music.

    Tell me you don’t dance around to a jingle by Culture Club or “99 Luftballons” or cry when you hear “Total Eclipse of the Heart” or sing into the mirror to “Bette Davis Eyes.”

    LOL, me neither (embarrassed wink).

  12. “These artists and their work have transcended in such a way that a time sense is hard to detect because music from that time was not only good, but the songs were original verses that were catchy in which they live on forever.”

    You bet! Wise minded music executives weren’t looking for a quick score either. They knew it took time for a recording artist to build a following. Backing an artist was a long term investment.

  13. “I also love AFI (most of all their pre-Sing The Sorrow works)”

    Ah, you must mean before Davey Havok turned into a girl.

    “Less Than Jake, Five Iron Frenzy, and yes, MxPx (I knew who they were before anybody in secular music did).”

    Yeah, they’re still largely unknown outside the punk scene. I also listened to Relient K, Slick Shoes, Ace Troubleshooter, Side Walk Slam and Dogwood before I ever stepped foot in a church. All the kids at my church thought it was completely strange that a then non spiritual person had those bands in his collection. Good music is good music, unless it was satanic. You could have been the most awesome punk musicians I’d heard, but even back then, if the lyrics were satanic, I’d have no part of it.

    LTJ is the only ska I can tolerate, only because it’s slightly more punk than ska. It’s just incredibly annoying to go to a show and see guys in suits skanking, especially when it’s close to 100 degrees in the Nile…

  14. Ah, I was really into Marilyn Manson when I was a teenager. I have adult friends who still listen to him and it seems odd to me. He needs to grow up, if he can’t handle people not liking him, then quit saying inflammatory things and dressing like a freak. I liked to dye my hair neon red and dress weird when I was a kid, but I didn’t cry and whine if people gave me crap about it.

    I love all sorts of music. The Clash, The Ramones, and Cock Sparrer (old school English Oi), Flogging Molly and the Dropkicks, the Tossers, Street Dogs, Bouncing Souls, etc. Laurel Atkins, the Toasters, the Specials, etc. I also love Johnny Cash, Loretta Lynn, John Denver, Willie Nelson, any of the classic country stars really. There’s not a lot of newer music I like. I think the White Stripes are probably the only decent band that’s newer. Though I like OK GO and Jet. And I do love the one hit wonders of the 80s 🙂 I listen to pretty much anything!

    NOFX are stuck up a**holes, btw. I met them and they were all total pricks. The lead singer of the Offspring is super, SUPER nice, though.

  15. “NOFX are stuck up a**holes, btw. I met them and they were all total pricks”

    In fairness, perhaps ‘drunken idiots’ would better suit them over assholes, because I’ve met them too and they were nice to me. Are they assholes because they made a song about GWB called “Idiot son of an asshole”? Not sure if you’re a con or not, but I would imagine that would piss off any republican who may have been a fan of theirs (total oxymoron)…

  16. I don’t like NOFX for the same reason Katie doesn’t. They were pricks when I came across them and they were stone-cold sober. I understand as well as anyone who’s spent time in the music biz that every artist has bad days, but many of the people I know who’ve met them on other occasions have said the same thing.

    I don’t like political music. If you notice, artists and bands who are more conservative don’t get as angry and in-your-face with their songs about the troops as the liberal ones do. I don’t like Obama, but I wouldn’t want to hear someone calling him something like an “idiot son of an asshole” either. Green Day totally lost me when they put “American Idiot” out there. I can handle Disturbed singing about being jaded about certain events, but at least they don’t take it as far as to bash everything American for the whole world to cheer.

  17. “They were pricks when I came across them and they were stone-cold sober”

    You saw NOFX sober? That’s amazing!

    “I don’t like political music. If you notice, artists and bands who are more conservative don’t get as angry and in-your-face with their songs about the troops as the liberal ones do”

    I suppose if their points are valid they do. What about that country singer that said something to the effect of turning an unnamed middle east country into glass and that it was the American way to put a boot up your ass? And speaking specifically to punk music, it’s always been a counter culture type of music, and most punks have a liberal slant. And conservative punks aren’t shunned or booed, unless they’re assholes. Dave Smalley of Dag Nasty and Down By Law doesn’t get beaten at his shows. Most of us aren’t assholes to the degree of some straight edge punks who beat the shit out of someone they see drinking or smoking pot, although Fat Mike did have a huge falling out with Joe Escalate of the Vandals over his support for Bush (his reason: “The tax cuts, I’m rich”). But to say that punk rock doesn’t mix with politics is like saying chocolate doesn’t mix with peanut butter…

  18. “The Offspring are total sellouts, by the way.”

    True faith comes to mind when you mention that band. After years of trying to make it they did make it. Lesser groups would have given up much sooner. I respect their tenacity.

    I am not familier with their work before Smash or anything since.

  19. Best bands, The Misfits, The Undead, Balzac, Blitzkid, Black Sabbath, Social Distortion, VNV Nation, The Creepshow, The Virus, The Damned, Buddy Holly, Megadeth, The Spookshow, Doing Life, Pop Will Eat Itself, Life Of Agony, Iron Maiden, Crayon Death, Mindless Self Indulgence and well other things to piss off your parents.

    Some of Manson’s stuff is OK, but for the most part it’s crap, especially after the first album, and the fans are morons. I remember in high school when they got big I couldn’t stand the fans and I even liked the music at the time. He is probably doing this because he needs the publicity so he can afford to buy more Valtrex.

    Offspring were good, the first self titled album was good and so was Ignition, Smash was OK and the rest was crap. But it happens, Bad Religion hasn’t had a good Album in over ten years, I think The Grey Race was the last one that didn’t suck, but that wasn’t that good.

    Punk Rock isn’t all politics, or even one kind of politics, it’s everything no matter what anyone says. I wrote about this a while ago, check it out (for the shameless plug).

  20. “But it happens, Bad Religion hasn’t had a good Album in over ten years, I think The Grey Race was the last one that didn’t suck, but that wasn’t that good.”

    What? Have you bothered to listen to “The Process of Belief” or “The Empire Strikes First”? Ever since Brett Gurewitz rejoined the band, they’re back in amazing form, with the song writing duo that changed the face of punk music way back in the 80’s.

  21. I haven’t heard “The Empire Strikes First”, I didn’t bother to listen to it because I didn’t like the last several albums and “The Process of Belief” had only 2 decent songs on it.

  22. Man I feel late 20’s/early 30’s again!!!

    All of these great and not so great bands depending on ones point of view.

  23. “Yeah well – Supertramp was REALLY fierce!”

    You go honey. I Loved Breakfast in America. The live albumn Paris has a permanent place in my collection. Famous Last Words and Brother Where You Bound were a departure from their usual fair.

    Speaking of music, file this under I did not know this. When a song is played on the radio in the U.S., only the songwriter gets a royalty. The singer does not unless the singer wrote the song. Nearly everywhere else in the world, they both get a royalty.

    There is a law in Congress to change that. The conventional wisdom in the U.S. is radio stations play the songs, people hear the music, people buy the music, so the singer does get paid because of unit sales. So why should the singer get paid for what amounts to Free Advertising? Free Advertising is the payoff.

    Because the U.S. does what it does on this matter, foreign countries don’t pay U.S. artists singer royalties when there songs are played overseas. Yes, this is retailiation.

  24. LOL, I was actually kidding about Supertramp. Though I do hum along to “the logical song” and “take the long way home” as they play.

    Great bands for me include Def Leppard, Poison, VAN HALEN, the Scorpions, etc. That’s the kind of music that lasts forever. Plus songs by Madonna from the 80’s and 90’s live on forever.

  25. “I have to admit, 80’s hair metal does still have a special place in my heart.”

    I know it was not one of the greatest albums ever. Nightsongs by Cinderella is a good piece of work. “Mother” by Danzig is a great song. The best songs on Appetite for Destruction by Guns N Roses are the ones that did not get played on the radio.

    Mr. Brownstone is a great song about smack addiction.

    The opening lines to My Michelle are as original as original gets:

    Your daddy works in porno now that mommy’s not around. She used to love her heroin. But now she’s underground.

    And the last two lines of the song I’ve said to many a gent:

    Honey don’t stopy trying and you’ll get what you deserve.

  26. “Great bands for me include Def Leppard, Poison, VAN HALEN, the Scorpions,”

    I so had a crush on Rudolf Schenker from the Scorpions. He played rythm guitar and he was hot, hot, hot.

    Def Leppard, so sad how fate treated that group. The drummer loses an arm. Their chief songwriter dies.

    Now here is a tidbit about Poison. They produced the album Talk Dirty To Me for a paltry $13,000 and it sold over 4 million copies. Wow!!! In that day and time, a typical album was produced for about $250K to $500K. You know the record company had to love pioson for thier small investment that paid off huge.

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