More on the Shooting in Arizona…

I’m in Arizona. Right now, my roommate is in Tucson. From every corner of the state everyone is losing their minds. A candlelight vigil just ended a short time ago at the Arizona State Capitol building; when I received an email alert from my conservative network, they specifically begged everyone to leave the political shirts, banners and other nonsense at home. Conservatives did exactly that. Guess who refused to leave their printed political slander behind?

The liberals. Those bastions of all that is good in this world have already made this out to be a crusade of conservatives against a Democrat. Sarah Palin’s PAC website has been held up by God only knows how many sources as the supposed cause of this tragedy. People are pointing out that a map on her website marked with a symbol described as “crosshairs” – a symbol which is actually a surveyor’s symbol, not a target or a bullseye – are supposedly calls for violence. Liberals whom I have long respected for their ability to have a civil debate and genuinely listen to those with whom they disagree are now pointing to screenshots of that map and claiming that it’s proof positive that conservatives are at fault for this.

First of all, Jared Lee Loughner (the shooter) posted often on FaceBook, MySpace and YouTube, and he was in dire need of a straightjacket and a Thorazine drip. He was likely a left-leaning nutcase who had obsessions with illiteracy and the Mayan prophecy about 2012. He believed that the government was engaging in mind-reading and mind control. He believed that the community college he was attending had somehow stripped all of the students of their Constitutional rights because of mind-control practices. He was a few fruit loops shy of a full bowl, and he started posting threats as far back as December 13 and 14…he said, “I don’t feel good. I’m ready to kill a police officers. I can say it.” The next day, he wrote, “Wow…I’m glad I didn’t kill myself. I’ll see you on national TV. This is a foreshadow..why doesn’t anyone talk to me?”

What happened was a tragedy on a level that is difficult to comprehend. Federal judge John Roll was killed, as was 9-year-old Christina Green. Also among the dead were at least three senior citizens and one of Giffords’ aides, Gabriel Zimmerman. Gabrielle Giffords herself was shot point-blank in the head; the bullet went all the way through her brain and exited through her forehead, and by the Grace of God she is alive and responding to doctors.

In all of this, the media has not talked once about how this incident ended. A private citizen, exercising his Second Amendment rights, fired at the shooter, hitting him; that person and one other then tackled Loughner. Why will you never hear about it? Because if you did, it would prove our long-held belief (one that has been proven many times over) that an armed citizen can stop a criminal in his tracks. How many more would have died if that man had not been armed at the store this morning?

What I cannot fathom, however, is how multiple media outlets – not the least of which is Keith Olbermann – are already laying the blame for this squarely on the shoulders of conservatives. Olbermann himself claimed that Republicans had “targets on their opponents’ faces”, when in reality that was NEVER done by Palin or her staff. Rather than mourning the loss of six innocent people without prejudice, they’re refusing to let a good crisis go to waste. They lost no time in laying this on our doorstep.

We’re not taking the blame for it. I’m not going to sit back and remain silent while liberals do their level best to make us out to be monsters. Shame on each and every one of you for turning this into a political circus. Shame on Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik for saying, “the anger, the hatred, the bigotry that goes on in this country is getting to be outrageous. And, unfortunately, Arizona I think has become sort of the capital. We have become the Mecca for prejudice and bigotry.” Shame on every single person who has pointed the finger at Sarah Palin and her followers for somehow egging this tragedy on.

Shame on all of you.

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23 thoughts on “More on the Shooting in Arizona…

  1. I love how the left and the President and hte media urges us to not jump to conclusions in the case of Malkin Hassan or Fizel Shazhad. Yet, not even 24 hours into this tragedy and they’re already blaming it on Sarah Palin.

  2. Deepnet,

    Ever heard of a “figure of speech?” Companies “target” certain demographics and “aim” to “hit” sales goals. I bet Democrats would like to “wipe out” any opposition to their plans too. Does this make them violent? No. Politicians and media use these terms and images all the time. Does that make nutjobs like this guy kill? No, he made a choice to kill.
    It would seem he was also a far Left leaning person with serious mental issues and, according to a schoolmate, “a pothead.” Yup, sounds like the kind of person who would look at a Palin website.
    I hope no one else dies and my thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families.
    AndyB, NH.

  3. “First of all, Jared Lee Loughner (the shooter) posted often on FaceBook, MySpace and YouTube, and he was in dire need of a straightjacket and a Thorazine drip.”

    Exactly Mel. This Jared person is a nutter. Among nutters he is a Hall of Fame one. All this is (and sadly at that I might add) is a case of an extremely mentally imbalanced person who went on a rampage. Such incidents are rare.

    But boy are people making it more than it is. I have heard this called an assault on democracy. Oh geez. One lone nutter with a gun is going to topple the entire U.S. government? 19 hijackers in 3 airplanes could not do that. So, quit giving this nutter more power than he has. I suppose if a Republican got shot then it would be what? Liberation? Backlash against the oppressive system?

    I am sorry this has occurred. But let’s not make it out to be more than it is. It’s plenty enough of a tragedy on its own.

  4. “Liberals whom I have long respected for their ability to have a civil debate and genuinely listen to those with whom they disagree are now pointing to screenshots of that map and claiming that it’s proof positive that conservatives are at fault for this.”

    I agree that the shooter was a looney, but a LEFTY LIBERAL looney? C’mon.
    Most liberals are pro-choice, support health-care reform, and opposed Arizona’s SB1070 — just like Rep. Giffords. So why would he shoot her and not someone like John McCain? Conservatives are building their case against Jared Lee Loughner (yay, another three-namer) as being a liberal based on the fact that he read the Communist Manifesto. So what makes you guys any better than liberals building their case entirely on the target symbol?

    Also, the cross hairs aren’t the only factor in this tragic incident. It’s also the rhetoric that’s been coming from the Right Wing/Beck/Limbaugh/teabagger crowd for the last few years. I agree words like “target” and “bulls eye” can be used metaphorically, but holding signs that talk about “watering the tree in liberty” blah blah blah…, plus threats made against Giffords and other Democrats for passing HCR. The context is much bigger than Palin’s target symbol.

    Ultimately, this gunman is responsible for his actions, but don’t try playing down the rhetoric that been blowing around either. I never saw the Palin Pac graphic until yesterday, but I’ve been troubled by the violent rhetoric that’s been coming from the Right for quite a while now.

  5. Well, Mike, let’s talk about violent rhetoric from the left. Let’s start with the Big O, your main squeeze…

    “They bring a knife, we bring a gun.”

    “Get in Their Faces!”

    “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!”

    “Hit Back Twice As Hard…”

    “We talk to these folks… so I know whose ass to kick.”

    Republican victory would mean “hand to hand combat”

    “It’s time to Fight for it.”

    “Punish your enemies.”

    “I’m itching for a fight.”

    Nope…nothing at all wrong with his words there. He was just being metaphorical, right? No conservative is ever allowed to use metaphors, because as we all know, conservatives are all crazy.

  6. The Big O??

    Sorry Mel, but my main squeeze was Ron Paul, the REAL conservative. Not the Republican corporate pimps who keep masquerading as conservatives.

    BTW, did anyone try to kill a conservative politician lately because of Obama’s rhetoric? I’ll be happy to condemn Obama’s words when that happens.

    Regards

  7. Mike, are you seriously claiming that this brat was a conservative? I don’t think he was either left OR right. If he were conservative, he wouldn’t have posted videos on YouTube declaring that the police are Unconstitutional.

    And are you actually going to try to tell me that conservatives are more prone to violence based on their politicians than liberals are? Let’s talk about the incident in Milwaukee where a group of liberals slashed the tires of a group of Republicans in front of a campaign office. Or the liberals who have thrown food at numerous conservative pundits (such as Ann Coulter and Michelle Malkin). Let’s talk about the faux hate crimes staged on college campuses and blamed on conservatives. Let’s talk about the absolutely unhinged activities of a certain Democrat-employed window smasher in Colorado and all the claims that it was all the fault of conservatives.

    There are liars, cheats and thieves on both sides of the aisle but I am completely unwilling to allow this to be pinned on conservatives simply because of Sarah Palin’s PAC website or so-called “talk of violence.”

  8. “He was likely a left-leaning nutcase…”

    Now you say he’s neither left or right. What he is and believes remains to be seen. His attitudes expressed on YouTube sound like a paranoid anti-government wing-nut, somewhat Tea Partyish if you ask me. He doesn’t seem to believe in God either, but I find right-wingers can be just as anti-religious as lefties. What if he’s gay? What side does that put him on?

    I agree that extremism exists on both sides of the aisle, and the vandalism you mentioned is never justified, but I don’t hear NPR telling listeners to slash tires, break windows and throw food either. And I don’t think they did it because of Obama’s words either.

    Jailhouse Confession: How the right-wing media and Glenn Beck’s chalkboard drove Byron Williams to plot assassination
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/36498826@N02/5099412939/
    http://mediamatters.org/research/201010110002

    “Let’s talk about the faux hate crimes staged on college campuses and blamed on conservatives.”

    Specifics please? Regards.

  9. Mike,

    It is absolutely preposterous to say someone has to die first before you’ll care about what Obama says. Mel was making a point, and obviously you didn’t get it.

    The idea that Palin’s targets or words of retreating and re-loading had anything to do with this horrible tragedy is in the left’s lap who are desperately trying to pin this on somebody.

    Yet, constitutionalists (like Ron Paul supporters) or Obama are giving their benefit of the doubts to Muslim extremists. We are told to refrain from jumping to conclusions at their crimes. Yet, the media IMMEDIATELY starts connecting the dots to Sarah Palin over this crime in Arizona?

    Get a clue.

  10. Yes, and since this just went down yesterday I can change my mind with more information in hand. I will likely change my mind again once I get still more information.

    I’m not even going to respond to something posted on Media Matters; they are not a legitimate news source. They are openly hard-left liberal and looking for something to pin on conservatives such as Beck. Williams plotted his assassination based on his own views, he didn’t need a little shove.

    Specifics? Okay.

    In 2007, GWU student Sarah Marshak was caught putting swastikas and other anti-Semitic graffiti in Mitchell Hall. A supposedly conservative white supremacist group was accused of the crime.

    Also in 2007, at the same damn school, seven students belonging to IVAW (Iraq Veterans Against the War) – Adam Kokesh, Yong Kwon, Brian Tierney, Ned Goodwin, Maxine Nwigwe, Lara Masri and Amal Rammah – admitted to creating anti-Muslim flyers for an event that had been planned by Young America’s Foundation. The flyer touted the event as “Islamo-fascism awareness week” and was posted all over campus.

    In 2005, an unnamed student at Tamalpais High School in Los Angeles faked a series of anti-gay hate crimes against herself. The student was 17 and was the star of the wrestling team. Faked crimes included handwritten hate messages, vandalism on her locker and car, “die fag” being spray-painted on the school’s wall and being personally pelted with eggs.

    I could continue with crimes that weren’t fabricated on campuses, too. Tawana Brawley, anyone?

  11. I trully don’t care if the three part named guy is a Leftist, Rightist, Liberal, Conservative, Gay, Petitionable, an abused child, psychopath/sociopath, nutter, looney… He is a murderer plain and simple…
    Does any one know what Arizona’s rank is in the provision of mental health services? Could it be that this was not politically driven but schizoeffective in nature?

  12. Casey, I think that is entirely possible given the history and the circumstances. I don’t know how accurate they are, but there are now reports that Loughner was making threats as far back as 2006 and Dupnik’s office kept telling complainants that he was being “well managed” by the health care system.

  13. It is absolutely preposterous to say someone has to die first before you’ll care about what Obama says. Mel was making a point, and obviously you didn’t get it.
    The idea that Palin’s targets or words of retreating and re-loading had anything to do with this horrible tragedy is in the left’s lap who are desperately trying to pin this on somebody.

    Steve

    Do you think it’s preposterous that 6 people have ALREADY DIED, and Rep. Giffords might spend the rest of her life with serious brain damage, and yet you still refuse to show the slightest remorse over some of the rhetoric coming from the Right?

    Additionally, many in right-wing land are rejoicing over Giffords condition, saying that she deserved to be shot–for wanting people to have health care. Doesn’t that sound preposterous? Does this refute your liberal critics? What happened to “Compassionate Conservatism”?

    I understood Mel’s point. He was speaking about metaphors, and I’m fine with that.
    I don’t think anybody was expecting a literal knife and gun fight in Congress from Obama’s statement. Also phrases like “ass kicking”, “bitch slapping”, and “world of hurt” are fine with me too. After further reading and thought, I’m willing to ignore Palin’s target symbols and reload statement as a metaphor too. I’m not accusing Palin of murder.

    But like I said in my original post, it goes beyond the target symbols and Sarah Palin.

    I’m still having trouble seeing the metaphors in Sharron Angel’s statement about “Second Amendment solutions” and Joyce Kaufman’s “If ballots don’t work, bullets will” (borrowed from Malcom X, no doubt). I also mentioned the threats and vandalism attacks against Democrats. Is that a metaphor too?

    I also said Loughner is the one ultimately responsible for this tragedy. But can you guys just put down the Republican mantle long enough and just see that the rhetoric, from certain people, went too far?

    Can conservatives admit they make mistakes? Or is that too liberal?

    Regards

  14. “Ultimately, this gunman is responsible for his actions, but don’t try playing down the rhetoric that been blowing around either. I never saw the Palin Pac graphic until yesterday, but I’ve been troubled by the violent rhetoric that’s been coming from the Right for quite a while now.”

    Violent rhetoric from the right? If we take a short look back the Obama unknowingly took campaign money raised by the terrorist Bill Ayers. When he learned of Ayers bloody past he did not return that money. But he should have.

    So when the man at the top sets such a putrid example then sadly the floodgates open.

    As for the threats for passing health care reform, perhaps there would have been threats if peopel voted against Obamacare? Were there such threats? I bet there were. One can never please everyone on hot button issues.

    Now changing gears just a bit. There is good legislation, bad legislation and down right evil legislation. Obamacare is evil. Cap and trade is evil. Trillion dollar deficits are evil. Yet the axis of evil Pelosi-Reid-Obama had no problem inflicting that on America. You don’t respond to evil by being nice.

  15. It seems that EVERY action must be caused by or connected to politics and political speech. It baffles and maddens me to see stories that make it “Palin’s problem” or the fault of “heated rhetoric.” There is no good or logical reason for what this young man did (allegedly, lawyers tell me I have to say that;-)) outside of his twisted mind. But, people can’t stand that so they have to make it the fault of someone or something else (“it’s society’s fault so arrest society” pythonesque). Sarah Palin, Shawn Hannity, Glenn Beck, did not make this guy do what he did. Neither did Obamacare, Nancy Pelosi (though she does have crazy eyes, I don’t think she has that superpower). Why is it we cannot look at something and keep from making it a political event?
    AndyB, NH.

  16. “Steve

    Do you think it’s preposterous that 6 people have ALREADY DIED, and Rep. Giffords might spend the rest of her life with serious brain damage, and yet you still refuse to show the slightest remorse over some of the rhetoric coming from the Right?

    Additionally, many in right-wing land are rejoicing over Giffords condition, saying that she deserved to be shot–for wanting people to have health care. Doesn’t that sound preposterous? Does this refute your liberal critics? What happened to “Compassionate Conservatism”?”

    THERE IS NOTHING TO APOLOGIZE FOR. My God! This kid had exuded mental instability and a hate for Gifford going back three years before anybody knew who Palin was on a national level.

    Depending on your desire, we could have connected this to a music video, a song, a Martin Scorsese movie, etc. Sarah Palin’s map had nothing to do with it! Democrats have been using political maps with targets for years.

    The left’s selective desire to single out Sarah Palin before the blood has even drained from the veins of the victims shows they couldn’t care less about those victims. They couldn’t care less about inciting hatred (of course it’s okay when they do it to Sarah Palin knowing she’s already fighting off liberal loons who move in next door to her to stare at her kids all day) OR increasing the quality of our dialogue.

    The jumped to the conclusion they themselves along with the President and the media begged us not to do in the case of Malik Hassan.

    Mel was making a point, we would not have been so stupid as to blame Obama for this tragedy as the left is in the case of Sarah Palin.

    By spewing their crap, they immediately wipe out what it is they are claiming to do: “make everybody be sweet and nice in the political world.”

    This proves their scum-level and frankly how dangerous they are to this country.

  17. Moreover, this has more to do with Sheriff Dumbnik who knew for three years this kid had mental issues, did nothing about it, and is now trying to shift the blame to someone else other than him.

  18. I’d like to preface my comments by first offering condolences to everyone who was affected by this senseless tragedy. That being said, I personally find it questionable, if not reprehensible, that this blog didn’t do anything of the sort, which was disappointing, but not at all surprising. The first thing out of the gate was a defensive posture. This guy was even accused of being an Obama supporter. As far as I know, no politician, past or present, is being held personally responsible for the actions of a lunatic. I won’t pretend to know the motives of the gunman, but it’s clear to me that the political rhetoric in this country has reached a fever pitch. A keen tactic of those who feel guilt or some sense of responsibility is to try to garner a consensus for moral equivalence, something that posters on this site have derided and claimed is a machination of the left, yet now engage in. Not only is that equivalence false, it’s moot. People out there are not attempting to assassinate Republican politicians. There are no crackpots on the left railing against the dangers of smaller government, or the threat of overpopulation that must be met head on with more abortions. I don’t think anyone is responsible for this young man’s actions but himself. I do, however, think this is as good a time as any to address the psychotic undertones employed by right wing rhetoric. Because honestly, it’s just as Clinton said, the words of the right wing media in this country fall on the ears of the serious as well as the unhinged.

    “People are pointing out that a map on her website marked with a symbol described as “crosshairs” – a symbol which is actually a surveyor’s symbol, not a target or a bullseye – are supposedly calls for violence.”

    You (and Tammy Bruce) are splitting semantic hairs here. They both use reticles, and both serve the same purpose – determining distance. And I don’t think this is the sole example that people are taking issue with. I’ve read reports that the former Governor has been offering other violently themed advice to unsatisfied folks, involving “reloading” rather than “retreating”. And Sarah Palin is a nobody to me; her comments are not nearly as troubling as those running for political office. Someone else had mentioned Sharron Angle’s “second amendment remedies” if conservatives didn’t get their way at the polls, as well as the reference to bullets not ballots. This type of over the top, gun crazed rhetoric borders on incitement. Giffords’ opponent in this last Congressional race, Jesse Kelly, held an event where constituents could shoot an assault rifle with him, in support of removing Giffords from office. Someone even commented on a web site that they were disappointed that the victim was not Raul Grijalva. This type of rhetoric and behavior are incredibly disturbing, and any attempts by the right to deny this is 100% denial. No one in their right mind would defend this disgusting display of “discourse”. As much as I can’t stand Howard Stern, I could only agree with his sentiment that the media, as well as Palin herself (and this site, no doubt) would have a conniption if David Letterman put a picture of her kid up with crosshairs – sorry, “surveyor’s symbols” on her face, and rightfully so.

    “In all of this, the media has not talked once about how this incident ended. A private citizen, exercising his Second Amendment rights, fired at the shooter, hitting him; that person and one other then tackled Loughner. Why will you never hear about it?”

    Because that never happened, that’s why. He was indeed tackled by bystanders, but no one shot him. An older woman managed to knock a magazine out of his reach while two men disarmed him. I can’t figure out what you’re trying to accomplish by posting something that’s false, or why you wouldn’t even bother to cite a source. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you had incorrect information at the time you posted this (although the fact that you have yet to correct this gives me pause). Personally, I wouldn’t have been upset if he were beaten to death at the scene.

    “We’re not taking the blame for it.”

    I don’t think anyone is trying to blame you, per se. But this is clearly a problem that seems to only manifest itself when a Democrat is in the White House, which happens to coincide with right wing lunatics like Glenn Beck instilling his special brand of paranoia on those who lack the ability or willingness to engage in critical thinking. Militia groups don’t seem to have anything to say when a Republican is in office violating damn near every amendment in the Constitution, but when a Democrat’s there, trying to restore them, there is no shortage of shrieking maniacs declaring that your liberties are being stripped and the military should ignore direct orders from the President.

    “I’m not going to sit back and remain silent while liberals do their level best to make us out to be monsters. Shame on each and every one of you for turning this into a political circus.”

    Oh, this is just sad. You know as well as I do that had some Republican been shot after years of the left ramping up gun rhetoric and anti conservative sentiments, you’d jump to the same, logical conclusion (Occam’s Razor, anyone?). Yes, there were some that rushed to judgment (I chose not to do that until I had as much information as possible), but you’re pretending that it’s unwarranted, like this happened in a vacuum and the left is using you as a scapegoat. A member of Congress was critically wounded, of course it’s going to be a political circus. But rather than being humbled by this tragedy and saying “you know what, maybe we do need to tone it down”, regardless of the shooter’s motives, the right immediately jumped into defense mode and has never left it. It may be inane to you to blame the right for what happened. Equally inane is pretending that words have no effect on people. I find it appalling that the same people who are always promoting personal responsibility are the same ones now recoiling at the mere suggestion that they take responsibility for creating such a toxic atmosphere. I don’t think anyone is asking that they plead guilty to facilitation, but for crying out loud, at least admit that you’re contributing to something that is completely counterproductive. And I don’t mean you, personally. I mean the pundits who have a national stage and know damn well they make their money by peddling misinformation and fostering unrest. That’s where the real shame lies, not on the people pointing it out.

  19. “I’d like to preface my comments by first offering condolences to everyone who was affected by this senseless tragedy. That being said, I personally find it questionable, if not reprehensible”

    Sure, it’s easy to “preface” now after your first reaction was to blame Sarah Palin and the Tea Party. Too bad the media didn’t “preface” anything. Nor did Sheriff Dumnik.

    I can tell though that your usual leftist rage — the kind that leads to the sort of desperation which blames people like Palin before finding out the facts — quickly turns to the phony indignant tone when you think you can portray anyone on this blog as insensitive.

    I didn’t read beyond those first few lines because it laid the groundwork for the remainder of the crap it promised.

  20. Clearly, reading isn’t your strong suit. If it was, you’d know better than to assume that I blame Sarah Palin for anything I’ve opined on. And leftist rage? That’s hilarious. I love how you can find rage in articulation, but not in statements like “people are really looking towards those second amendment remedies”.

  21. (although the fact that you have yet to correct this gives me pause)

    I’m sure it does, but between starting a new job and dealing with a serious illness, I’m sure I’ve had better things to do than respond to everything. I’ve had other things on my mind.

    Yes, I was misinformed. I was not the only one. I thought Loughner had been shot and that was not the case. I will point out, however, if someone else had been armed, this whole thing could have been ended a hell of a lot faster and fewer people would have died.

    “I love how you can find rage in articulation, but not in statements like “people are really looking towards those second amendment remedies”.”

    Hmmm…Let’s talk about articulation from the left…

    James von Brunn pulled out a gun at the Holocaust Museum and opened fire, killing one person. The left and their lackey media hounds immediately blamed it on the right. When it was discovered that von Brunn hated Jews, Christians, Bush, FOX, and was a 9/11 twoofer, the left sputtered and let the incident fade into the background.

    Census worker Bill Sparkman was found naked, hanging from a tree in rural Kentucky with “FED” written on his chest. The find was instantly dubbed a “lynching” by left-wing pundits. When his death was ruled a suicide, the left was (again) speechless. This incident was also allowed to disappear quietly.

    Amy Bishop pulled a gun on her fellow faculty members at the University of Alabama and opened fire, killing three. Lefties jumped to blame the crime on Tea Party rhetoric. When it was discovered that she all but worshiped the Big O, the left was stricken dumb. Most of my liberal friends don’t even remember who she is.

    Joseph Andrew Stack flew a puddle-jumper airplane into an IRS building. Yet again, the left howled about how right-wing hate speech must have led to the incident. A few days later it was released that the screed he’d written prior to committing the attack railed against Bush, the US medical system, the Catholic church, and capitalism in general – greed is evil, he said. The left forgot that one as quickly as they blamed us.

    Let’s talk about lefty celebrities (those folks who are so much better than we are). How ’bout we talk about Madonna bragging that she was going to kick Palin’s ass. Or Sandra Bernhard calling for Palin to be raped by a few “big black brothers”. Let’s talk about the t-shirts and “artwork” that lampooned killing George W. Bush, including picket signs that showed him beheaded and another that said, “BUSH: the only dope worth shooting”. Let’s talk about Black Panther leader Malik Shabazz calling for black people to “prepare for war” or declaring, “we gonna have to kill some crackers! We gonna have to kill their babies!” Or how about the gay liberals who, in the wake of the passage of Prop 8 in California, went on one liberal’s blog and called for us to “burn their effing churches to the ground and tax the charred timbers!”

    Yeah. That’s very articulate.

    Maybe we should talk about some of the hate crimes committed by lefties against righties. Nathan Winkler of Tampa, FL was arrested for stalking a woman and threatening her over a Bush/Cheney sticker on her minivan. Barry Seltzer of Sarasota, FL tried to run down Republican Katherine Harris with his car. The son of Wisconsin Democrat Gwen Moore and four of his friends – all on the clock, being paid to campaign for John Kerry – were arrested for slashing the tires of some 20-odd vehicles in the parking lot of a Republican event. Norman Leboon was arrested for posting death threats against Eric Cantor and other conservative figures on YouTube.

    I’ve already posted on this blog all of the outrageously overt violently-themed comments that the Big O himself has uttered, so I’m not going to repost them. My point in all of this is simple: there is no more articulation on the left than there is on the right – in fact, I daresay there’s less. You may be articulate, but I know a number of lefties who aren’t.

  22. If it is true then it bothers you if you are wrong. Obamacare is evil and so are the politicians who backed it. Sorry if that is considered inflamatory. One trillion dollar deficits are evil too as are the people who push them. Extending unemployment benefits to 3 years again is evil.

    So what if the rhetoric calls it what it is? A pig in a wedding dress is still a pig. Evil is evil no matter how stunning the declotage.

    If the Left is tird of the rhetoric then the Left needs to come up with bettter solutions.

    Last week I reviewed a resume for someone who has been out of work for 2 years. 2 freaking years. In two years that person could not get a job at Macy’s during the holiday rush or work at any job? Are you kidding me? I am not going to waste an hour interviewing this person. If this person is so great at working then why can’t this person take any job? That’s what extending unemployment benefits causes. It causes ripe fruit to rot on the vine.

    Thanks to Obamacare I now have insurance coverage I don’t want. I don’t want zero lifetime limit on payouts. I’ll gamble I won’ t need unlimited amounts of healthcare in my lifetime. That’s may gamble to take. I had a policy cap of $4 million. Now it is unlimited. Statisically I won’t need that much medical care in my life. What kind of fiscal idiot came up with that idea?

    Finally if you can’t afford something then don’t buy it. We can’t afford trillion dollar deficits. Our fiscal spending will do more damage than any war could ever do here. Yet, on and on it goes. Spend, spend and spend some more. I guess it ends when the U.S. becomes an operating subsidiary of China.

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