As Long As We’re Using Nazi Comparisons…

Liberals love to compare conservatives to Nazis. They point to Iraq, Afghanistan, Gitmo, abortion rights, gay rights, and a host of other unpleasant issues and call us Nazis. Bush has been compared to Hitler on so many occasions I lost count. It strikes me, however, that they don’t realize who Hitler was and what his Nazis did.

What makes a conservative a Nazi? I don’t really see the parallel, and believe me, I’ve tried. Nazis were essentially socialists; if you read the writings of Marx and Hitler back-to-back, you can hardly tell the difference. Nazis believed in forsaking all for the motherland, but doing so in a fashion that can’t be called conservative by any stretch of the imagination (at least not by today’s standards).

What does conservative mean today? Limited government. Free market values. True Constitutionalism. No entitlements. Real freedom – not the version we’re being spoon-fed today. It’s frustrating to see the direction my country is headed in, with years of unemployment benefits, social security, medicare/medicaid, and welfare (not to mention federal funding of Planned Parenthood) sapping us dry. That goes right along with all the wars we’re fighting, the open borders and the illegals who flood through them in droves.

Bush has been painted as Hitler simply for supporting a federal marriage amendment. How can that be, considering the numerous parallels that can be drawn – and proven – between today’s Obama supporters and honest-to-Hitler Nazis? Pretty much the only similarity between conservatives and Nazis that can be drawn is the fact that both are heartily patriotic. That’s about where it ends.

Nazis believed in providing for all. All who were capable to work would work for the good of all. As a result of the collective effort, good, strong Aryan Germans would have everything a human being in civilized society could want – a house, a car, food, even a regular vacation was on the agenda to make sure German citizens could unwind and the work wouldn’t get old. The idea was that the nation would flourish because of the work of the collective. There was no such thing as individualism, and parents had absolutely no say in the raising of their children. When 13-year-olds came home from the Nuremberg rallies pregnant, outraged parents remained silent in the end for fear of the Gestapo.

Essentially, the government provided everything while the people lived in bliss. At least that was the way it was supposed to work. Let us handle the tough decisions, the leaders said. We know better.

We all know how Nazi Germany ended. Eventually, rhetoric about doing all for the good of the people turned into doing all for the good of the motherland, which turned into conquest, which turned into Shoah (the Holocaust). By the time all of the anti-war protesters realized that they’d been had, it was damn near too late to stop the murderous rampage of the swastika across the globe. Anti-war sentiment is certainly not new to this day and age. They wanted peace back then, too.

Today’s liberal Obama-loving masses frighten me on a level that no liberal ever has. During the elections liberals gushed that they wouldn’t have to pay for their mortgages or put gas in their own cars anymore. Hope and change, they cheered. A new age of tolerance was to be ushered in and all of the financial difficulties of the past would disappear in the blink of an eye because the Big O would ride in on a unicorn that shat rainbows and give us world peace.

It hasn’t quite worked out that way. TARP turned into an even bigger fiasco from day one of his reign when he extended the bailouts to insurers and American automakers. Unions, known for their thuggery, are today’s brownshirts. They carry out strikes and hold violent protests to strong-arm both government agencies and private businesses into giving them more than your average worker. Most recently, union members have been arrested for sending death threats to Republican lawmakers in Wisconsin. Liberals are appointing people to high positions without requiring serious experience (Elena Kagan, anyone?).

Like Nazis, liberals believe in the government being big and strong enough to regulate everything and provide for those who can’t (or won’t) provide for themselves. There’s no such thing as freedom in such a concept. The Nazis didn’t believe in freedom. I don’t believe today’s liberals do, either.

Nazis believed in the “creative power of the worker.” So do liberals.

Nazi beliefs were firmly rooted in racism and antisemitism, yet they denied such notions as foolish at first. Democrats also have the same background; see the correlation? Only after they established their grip on Europe did the Nazis openly allow their racist beliefs to turn into policy.

Now, tell me…who said this: “As things stand today, the trade unions in my opinion cannot be dispensed with. On the contrary, they are among the most important institutions of the nation’s economic life. Their significance lies not only in the social and political field, but even more in the general field of national politics. A people whose broad masses, through a sound trade-union movement, obtain the satisfaction of their living requirements and at the same time an education, will be tremendously strengthened in its power of resistance in the struggle for existence. Above all, the trade unions are necessary as foundation stones of the future economic parliament or chambers of estates.”

Obama? No. Robert Byrd? No. Bill Clinton? Nope.

It was Adolf Hitler – in Mein Kampf. Reading that book is, at times, almost like reading the modern liberal manifesto.

Hitler disregarded Christianity and had a known affection for Islam. So do liberals today.

Hitler believed in social justice being carried out by the government. So do liberals.

Hitler believed in a one-party government. Deep down, so do liberals.

Hitler believed in destroying capitalism and the free market partially through price fixing. So do liberals.

Hitler called businesses “cartels” and accused them of exploiting the poor. So do liberals.

Hitler believed in making “unearned income” illegal – basically abolishing new acquisition of wealth. So do liberals.

Hitler believed in the government providing for you once you reached senior citizen status. So do liberals.

Hitler believed that giving to the poor needed to be a legal mandate. So do liberals.

Hitler believed in a form of tolerance that really only tolerated Aryan beliefs. So do liberals.

Hitler believed in gun control. One had to have a government permit to own, much less carry, a gun. Only those considered politically trustworthy got permits for guns. Liberals…well, we all know what they think.

Hitler believed in eugenics. By proxy, so do liberals – in their hailing of Margaret Sanger, an avowed believer in eugenics, as a practical saint.

Hitler believed in what amounts to tribalism – showing pride in your heritage. So do liberals…in the form of cultural pressures to give more to minorities.

Hitler and many of his followers were vegetarians and believed in returning to a more natural form of existence. He was intent on creating national parks to preserve nature. One of the scientists he based the Nazi credo for nature on was Ludwig Klages, who wrote during WWI about how mankind was headed toward deforestation, increasing extinction of certain species, the evils of whaling and destruction of Earth’s ecosystem. Hello…liberals? PETA? Greenpeace? Al Gore???

Liberals might claim to abhor Hitler’s brand of antisemitism, but they can’t deny their campaign against Israel. Why else would so many people be willing to defend murderous jihadists after they blow up bar mitzvahs, weddings and bus stations?

I could keep going forever. The most frightening similarity, to me, came with Obama’s campaign. The Big O proclaimed “Hope and Change”, promising that things would be different. One of the Nazis’ favorite slogans is more than just eerie in its parallel:

“Alles muss anders sein!”

Loose translation? “Everything must be different.”

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15 thoughts on “As Long As We’re Using Nazi Comparisons…

  1. If you haven’t read it I would suggest you get Jonah Goldberg’s “Liberal Fascism”. It goes into a lot of detail about how the Fascist movement came out of the Progressive and Socialist movement in the late 19th and early 20th century. The big break between the Socialist movements and the Fascists was between internationalism vs. nationalism and that economics veered off from the standard Socialist line into Corporate Socialism were some industries were nationalized but large companies that had pull with the leaders or were doing basically what the leaders wanted were left alone to make and keep larger profits but could be nationalized or taken over at any moment if they angered the state.

  2. Everyone agrees that Hitler was evil. By dehumanizing conservatives as Hitlerite Nazis, the liberals increase the psychological likelihood and justification for violence against conservatives. That is one thing I learned from reading Zimbardo’s Lucifer Effect. Pretty scary stuff.

  3. Just discovered this site, straight Canadian here, love it. I really applaud the courage you guys have, because being straight I probably had less to lose by telling people I’m politically conservative, but have still been ostracized, mocked, and lost friends, which never stops being painful even if it makes you realize how shallow they are. Right now we’ve got a federal election going on up here which is turning into a huge poopstorm, my facebook status from today was “Is this an election or a cold civil war?”, because it feels more like that with our Liberal party (literally called Liberal up here) seeming to spend their entire time manufacturing scandals about the Conservative party (literally called Conservative up here, all that and we have really colourful money so the values won’t get mixed up, we do make it easy on ourselves, haha!). The “scandals” tend to die out after a couple days because there is no corroboration, but meanwhile impressionable people have been incepted with the belief our Conservative prime minister is evil incarnate.

    Anyway, I’m glad I found this site because it gets very tiring that anytime I reveal I’m not a leftist, the first things I hear is how I’m a racist and hate people of other sexual orientations, which simply is not true. I judge people by the content of their character and am only disdainful of liberals, who have created an entire ideology that allows them to sacrifice nothing, risk nothing, and yet feel heroic and morally superior.

  4. Anonymous, our hearts are with you. I have a good friend from Canada – he came to AZ because of the liberal garbage in his home country. I’ve heard stories from him that make the hair stand up on the back of my neck.

    You have our most profound respect for sticking to your beliefs in such a harsh climate. Never give up, buddy.

  5. In a way liberals have to tag Conservatives as Nazi’s. Consider the other options:

    Joseph Stalin – avowed leftist and murderer of too many people to count. He gets bonus points for being secular. I guess he is noble in the extermination department he did not discriminate.

    Mao Tse Tung – another avowed leftist who managed to murder more people during peace time than any other leader. He earns bonus points for being godless.

    Pol Pot – Although he did not manage large numbers of dead people during his campaign of terror in Cambodia, on a percentage of total population he could kill with the best of them. Oh yes, Godless atheist too.

    So perhaps the Nazi’s were evil not because they murdered 6,000,000 Jewish folks, gay folks, Gypsy folk, et al alone. Mass murder is easy. Look how many times it has been done. What makes Nazi’s evil is discriminating when they destoyed people. I suppose if everyone were fair game then that would be o.k.? It has to be among liberals because too many of their liberal gods are some of the most bloodthirsty people ever.

  6. John, they all discriminated in who they killed it was just the Nazis did it for racial/ethnic/religious reasons where the communists did it for class/political reasons. OK maybe they both did it for political reasons. Being able to say you killed all the Kulaks but hey at least you did try to kill people because they were Jewish doesn’t make it any better. Plus the Soviet Union did try to kill as many Ukrainians as they could and that is still mass murder based on ethnicity. Both the Communists and the Nazis were evil and neither one was less evil than the other (something I assume you meant by the sarcastic comment at the end).

  7. Someone emailed me and asked for an article source…Much of what is in the body of this article was gleaned from reading Mein Kampf myself as well as snippets of Karl Marx’s writings. Mein Kampf is available online although I will never link it here as the only versions available online are on Neo-Nazi websites that I will offer no credence to.

    However, a retired college professor named Dr. John Joseph Ray of Australia has collected a number of Nazi propaganda posters that give some searing insight to what Hitler promised everyone when he was trying to take power. Here’s a link (the first few may not load, scroll down a little way and you’ll see a good many that will):

    http://jonjayray.110mb.com/posters.html

  8. […] Nicole Sandler was not arrested for her political speech; she was asked to leave because of her behavior, and later arrested when she deliberately escalated that behavior. You cannot behave any which way you like and expect that it will be protected. When you attend a certain event, there will be a format and rules. Fail to obey them and you can be asked to leave. There’s nothing Unconstitutional about it. All of the claims of Nazism, thuggery and infringement of rights? I will again refer you to my post about Nazis being left-wing. […]

  9. This is a completely backwards post Mel, from start to finish.

    ”I don’t really see the parallel, and believe me, I’ve tried.”

    Not very hard, it would seem.

    “if you read the writings of Marx and Hitler back-to-back, you can hardly tell the difference.”

    Apparently, you’re glossing over the writings where Hitler clearly expresses his disdain for Karl Marx and labels his teachings a threat to Nazi Germany.

    “Nazis believed in forsaking all for the motherland, but doing so in a fashion that can’t be called conservative by any stretch of the imagination”

    Right….::coughdepartmentofhomelandsecuritycough::

    “What does conservative mean today? Limited government.”

    This is a new thing, right? I only ask that question because the last three Presidents that called themselves conservatives grew the size of government; two of them, considerably.

    “No entitlements.”

    There’s a reason they’re called entitlements. People are ENTITLED to them after paying into the programs their entire working lives. Why conservatives want to take that money and not pay out the benefit, who knows? But thievery’s my best guess.

    “Pretty much the only similarity between conservatives and Nazis that can be drawn is the fact that both are heartily patriotic. That’s about where it ends.”

    If you mean that where it merely begins, I’d agree. You’re also forgetting Nazi Germany’s paranoid homophobia, their loathing of art, their stern anti-intellectualism, opposition to feminism, and their irrational fear of sex in general. And let’s not forget the endearing quality of blaming all of society’s ills on a specific race/religion.

    “During the elections liberals gushed that they wouldn’t have to pay for their mortgages or put gas in their own cars anymore”

    Well, that’s a lie. It’s not a misrepresentation, or a case of you hearing what one woman said incorrectly, it’s a lie on your part. You know damn well that she said she wouldn’t have to WORRY about those things anymore. You do know what worry is, don’t you? I don’t worry about how I’m going to put gas in my car. And guess what – the President doesn’t do it for me.

    “…all of the financial difficulties of the past would disappear in the blink of an eye”

    Nobody actually thought that. It was merely used as a detractor by sardonic and negative assholes whose only goal in life is to bring people down to their level. Oh, the economy that the conservatives wrecked hasn’t been fixed in two years (even though it’s still leaps and bounds better than how they left it)? I guess that makes you stupid for having hope in the first place. You’d better abandon the notion of things getting better, because depressed and angry is just how the conservatives love the voting populace to be. That’s literally all I take away when I see some ignorant dummy with the “How’s that hopey-changey thing workin’ out for ya?” bumper sticker. And when someone’s dumb enough to ask the question to my face, I tell them “just fine, actually.” Then I tell them the myriad of ways that this country has only begun to recover from the nightmare that was George W. Bush. That usually either shuts them up or gets them yammering about some non existent socialist (you know damn well none of them knows what the word means) plot to make people healthy. Ooh, dastardly!

    “TARP turned into an even bigger fiasco from day one of his reign when he extended the bailouts to insurers and American automakers.”

    That’s strange, because both of those industries were bailed out by the Bush Administration…

    “Unions, known for their thuggery, are today’s brownshirts. They carry out strikes and hold violent protests to strong-arm both government agencies and private businesses into giving them more than your average worker.”

    Oh, this statement is just fucking sad. When did this supposed “violent protest” occur? Who was injured? Where are the arrest records? Yeah, you know those violent teachers, firefighters, and cops are at it again!

    “Liberals are appointing people to high positions without requiring serious experience (Elena Kagan, anyone?).”

    Clarence Thomas, anyone else?

    “Like Nazis, liberals believe in the government being big and strong enough to regulate everything and provide for those who can’t (or won’t) provide for themselves.“

    That’s so weird. So did the founding fathers. Nazis…

    “The Nazis didn’t believe in freedom. I don’t believe today’s liberals do, either.”

    Me neither. That’s why the root word of liberal is, oh, wait…

    “Nazi beliefs were firmly rooted in racism and antisemitism, yet they denied such notions as foolish at first. Democrats also have the same background; see the correlation?”

    No. But I did happen to catch how the Democrats abandoned racism and Republicans picked it right up. So much for that argument.

    I love your little quote about the trade unions. I really love the part where you omitted the systematic destruction of said trade unions under Hitler. You know, how he seized all their assets, arrested union leaders, and outlawed collective bargaining? Kind of puts a damper on your asinine implications, doesn’t it?

    “Hitler disregarded Christianity and had a known affection for Islam. So do liberals today.”

    Um, Hitler routinely positioned himself as a Christian for political purposes and subsequently ginned up hatred and fear of a certain religion. Kind of like today’s conservatives.

    “Hitler believed in a one-party government. Deep down, so do liberals.”

    Apparently, we’ve forgotten what America was like in the six years following 9/11…

    “Hitler called businesses “cartels” and accused them of exploiting the poor. So do liberals.”

    Actions also speak louder than words. Big business was totally in bed with the Government, while small business was left bleeding on the roadside. Sounds an awful lot like conservatism to me.

    “Hitler believed in the government providing for you once you reached senior citizen status. So do liberals.”

    Let me get this straight – we’re supposed to believe the same person that advocated selective breeding to ensure German’s usefulness to society was also fond of keeping gramps’ penchant for staring into space and drooling on the government dime? Give me a break.

    “Hitler believed that giving to the poor needed to be a legal mandate. So do liberals.”

    The pure essence of evil.

    “Hitler believed in a form of tolerance that really only tolerated Aryan beliefs. So do liberals.”

    Liberals believe in only tolerating Aryans? That one’s new to me…

    “Hitler believed in gun control. One had to have a government permit to own, much less carry, a gun. Only those considered politically trustworthy got permits for guns. Liberals…well, we all know what they think.”

    Please. Hitler didn’t touch the issue until 1938. And when he did, he actually eased gun ownership regulations. Sure, he tightened restrictions on handgun ownership, for some strange reason. But rifles, shotguns, and ammo? That was completely deregulated. He lowered the age at which gun ownership was legal from 20 to 18. Permits were valid for 3 years instead of one. That’s some control, there…

    “Hitler believed in eugenics. By proxy, so do liberals – in their hailing of Margaret Sanger, an avowed believer in eugenics, as a practical saint.”

    You, like Glenn Beck, are reaching. Liberals believe in total reproductive freedom. The argument is so much easier made that conservatives are for eugenics, what with so many in the South still opposed to interracial marriage…

    “Hitler believed in what amounts to tribalism – showing pride in your heritage. So do liberals”

    I can’t tell you how many liberals I see sporting the Confederate flag on their lifted trucks…

    “Hitler and many of his followers were vegetarians and believed in returning to a more natural form of existence.”

    Heh heh. Hey, I ate a salad last night, and now I have this strange urge to eradicate an entire race of people. What is wrong with you people? Hitler was a vegetarian because he was scared to death of contracting cancer.

    “Liberals might claim to abhor Hitler’s brand of antisemitism, but they can’t deny their campaign against Israel. Why else would so many people be willing to defend murderous jihadists after they blow up bar mitzvahs, weddings and bus stations?”

    So questioning the right’s blind allegiance to Israel is somehow a campaign against the country?

    “I could keep going forever.”

    Sweet. I’d love to keep proving you wrong.

    I really appreciate your rewritten history lesson. It lets me know the degree to which some people are deluded…

  10. Ah, Robert…back again, I see, and already accusing me of lying. You know, sometimes you really piss me off. I’m about to prove you dead wrong.

    “Apparently, you’re glossing over the writings where Hitler clearly expresses his disdain for Karl Marx and labels his teachings a threat to Nazi Germany.”

    No, I’m not, I was simply trying to shorten the missive. Hitler can dislike Marx all he wants, but between their beliefs in the power of the worker and their anti-Semitism, they were two peas in a pod.

    “Right….::coughdepartmentofhomelandsecuritycough::”

    Have you missed the past several posts lambasting both DHS and TSA? Apparently YOU are the one glossing over the things that don’t suit your agenda.

    “I only ask that question because the last three Presidents that called themselves conservatives grew the size of government; two of them, considerably.”

    Exactly. Two of them are Obama and Clinton. Bush wasn’t a true conservative, although I had more respect for his willingness to get tough with our enemies.

    “People are ENTITLED to them after paying into the programs their entire working lives.”

    Yes, but why do they need to be mandatory? When Social Security was first created, it was supposed to be voluntary. Which part of the Constitution gives the government the power to require that I pay into a government-run retirement program?

    “Why conservatives want to take that money and not pay out the benefit, who knows? But thievery’s my best guess.”

    We’re not talking about not paying it out to those who already paid into it, but the way your DEMOCRATS are going, I’m not going to be able to use it once I come of age – and I’m being forced to pay it before I even get my fucking paycheck. It was conceived by a DEMOCRAT and it was a piss-poor idea.

    “You’re also forgetting Nazi Germany’s paranoid homophobia…”

    Um…dare I mention Robert Byrd, who passionately championed DOMA? How about all of the Democrats who refuse to stand up for gay marriage rights? Have you seen the video of that transgendered woman in a Baltimore McDonald’s getting viciously beaten by two black women while the staff – also black – laugh and catch it on video? Walk into any inner-city neighborhood and ask them what they think about gay rights. Then you can get back to me on who’s really homophobic. At least I can have a civil conversation with other conservatives. I’d get murdered in the Fifth Ward.

    “their loathing of art…”

    That’s funny, because Hitler was an artist and tried twice to gain acceptance to the Vienna Art Institute before he entered politics.

    “their stern anti-intellectualism…”

    Modern universities are anti-intellectual. They are bastions of hatred and intolerance. Put a gay rights advocate on stage and everyone listens intently. Announce that Ann Coulter is coming for a Q&A session and she’s dodging lemon merengue pies. That isn’t intellectual, it’s Nazi tactics.

    “opposition to feminism…”

    Liberals can call themselves feminists all they want, but when they attack Sarah Palin and her kids with misogynistic slurs, they prove themselves to be the hypocrites they say Christians are.

    “…and their irrational fear of sex in general…”

    That’s hilarious. Did you know that the Nazis encouraged people to procreate whether they were of age or married or not? 13-year-old girls returned from multiple Nuremburg rallies pregnant because Nazi leadership encouraged them to have sex with young Nazi troopers. Their reasoning? More good, strong Aryans to help conquer Europe, of course!

    “And let’s not forget the endearing quality of blaming all of society’s ills on a specific race/religion.”

    Have you been to some of the anti-Israeli rallies recently? All these people who got behind Obama believe that Israel needs to disappear. I reference Helen Thomas, Jimmy Carter, and all of the dimwits in Berzerkeley as proof.

    “Well, that’s a lie. It’s not a misrepresentation, or a case of you hearing what one woman said incorrectly, it’s a lie on your part. You know damn well that she said she wouldn’t have to WORRY about those things anymore.”

    Don’t twist my words, you arrogant little shit. She said it. If I’m worrying about whether I’m going to be able to put gas in my car, I’m going to say, “I can’t go there, I can’t afford the gas.” I’m not going to talk about worrying about it, I’m going to say flat-out, “I might not be able to pay for that right now.” Everyone knows damn good and well what she was saying, particularly when she said, “if I help him, he’s gonna help me.” I would also point out that unemployment STILL hasn’t improved, housing prices are STILL dropping, and companies are sending jobs overseas at an outrageous pace.

    “Oh, the economy that the conservatives wrecked hasn’t been fixed in two years (even though it’s still leaps and bounds better than how they left it)?”

    See previous comment. If you really think we’re better off now than we were when Obama took office, you ain’t playin’ with a full deck.

    “Then I tell them the myriad of ways that this country has only begun to recover from the nightmare that was George W. Bush.”

    Oh, really? Maybe I should remind you that in 2003, Bush gave a speech before Congress in which he warned that we were headed for a major economic meltdown and a housing bubble that was going to burst. Maybe I should remind you that Barney Frank, then dating the head of Freddie Mac, blew Bush’s warning off as nothing. Bush tried to push for something that would head it off back then but your fucking Democrats didn’t want to hear it.

    “That’s strange, because both of those industries were bailed out by the Bush Administration…”

    Um…no. Bush authorized TARP for the banks. Obama was the nitwit who extended it to the insurers and automakers.

    “When did this supposed “violent protest” occur? Who was injured? Where are the arrest records? Yeah, you know those violent teachers, firefighters, and cops are at it again!”

    They happen frequently nowadays. I’m not in the habit of buying copies of arrest records, but take a gander at this…

    And this…

    And this…

    And this…

    This one was supposedly just minding his own business…

    I guess this was okay, because Tobin works for Fox…

    Last month, union protesters broke a window at the Michigan State Capitol building while one union protester attacked a cop with a knife. Fourteen were arrested in that incident alone. In Washington, DC, the windows at the GOP headquarters were shot out. Blogger Ann Althouse covered the events and received death threats from union members (despite the fact that she voted for the Big O), as have Wisconsin GOP members and the governor. GOP legislators in that state woke on different days to union mobs crowding their homes and banging on their doors and windows. Even the liberal pundits at the Huffington Post wondered why the media wasn’t covering these stories! The fact that you refuse to believe that it is going on tells me that you’re drinking the liberal Kool-Aid.

    “Clarence Thomas, anyone else?”

    Know the facts before you speak, please, because right now you look even more like a prick. Clarence Thomas grew up poor and went on to graduate from Yale Law School. He was an assistant AG in Missouri, worked as a lawyer for the US Dept. of Education and the EEOC, and sat as a federal judge in the DC circuit court of appeals. Elena Kagan? She never worked as a lawyer, nor did she ever sit on the bench. She graduated Harvard in 1986, became a professor, was named Solicitor General then was sent to SCOTUS. She had ZERO experience.

    “That’s so weird. So did the founding fathers. Nazis…”

    Talk about an outright lie…you need to read more of what our founding fathers wrote, particularly Thomas Jefferson. They believed in making your own way in the world and the federal government being limited in both scope and power.

    “No. But I did happen to catch how the Democrats abandoned racism and Republicans picked it right up. So much for that argument.”

    Prove it. I don’t know of a single conservative that has served in the past decade who has ever been a racist. Robert Byrd, on the other hand, WAS. He was also a raging homophobe.

    “I really love the part where you omitted the systematic destruction of said trade unions under Hitler. You know, how he seized all their assets, arrested union leaders, and outlawed collective bargaining? Kind of puts a damper on your asinine implications, doesn’t it?”

    Nope…not when I point out that that’s exactly what the liberals would do as soon as they had enough power to do it, exactly the way Hitler did. That was my point in the first place. You, apparently, missed it completely.

    “Um, Hitler routinely positioned himself as a Christian for political purposes and subsequently ginned up hatred and fear of a certain religion.”

    Pot calling kettle…hellooooo…Catholic Democrats and Israel…?

    “Apparently, we’ve forgotten what America was like in the six years following 9/11…”

    We sure as hell weren’t anything resembling a one-party nation. All those economic issues were being trumpeted by the Republicans, ignored by the Democrats until it was too late.

    “Big business was totally in bed with the Government, while small business was left bleeding on the roadside.”

    And what, pray tell, do you call Obama bringing in major corporate CEO’s such as Jeffrey Immelt, Jamie Dimon, Kenneth Chennault, and Ivan Seidenberg to help with job recovery? Each of these guys are lifelong Democrats, and despite the fact that their businesses are suffering under super-regulation brought on by the party they helped put in office, they are still licking Obama’s boots.

    “Let me get this straight – we’re supposed to believe the same person that advocated selective breeding to ensure German’s usefulness to society was also fond of keeping gramps’ penchant for staring into space and drooling on the government dime?”

    That comment tells me you don’t know shit about Nazi propaganda. Yes, Hitler believed in that. Did you know that he also campaigned for peace while he was trying to climb the political ladder? Surprise!

    “The pure essence of evil.”

    I assume you mean to say that my belief that helping the poor should NOT be a legal mandate is evil. How is it evil, pray tell? I’m not saying we shouldn’t help the poor, I just don’t believe it needs to be mandatory for everybody. Some people can – and do – give more to the poor, I’ve seen them do it. What about others who don’t make as much as me? Why should they be forced to pay taxes so that their money can be redistributed? What’s evil is believing that we should all be forced down to the same level.

    “Liberals believe in only tolerating Aryans? That one’s new to me…”

    Let me rephrase that: Hitler believed in a form of tolerance that really only tolerated Aryan beliefs. Liberals only believe in tolerating those who share their views and are willing to damn all others to hell.

    “Sure, he tightened restrictions on handgun ownership, for some strange reason. But rifles, shotguns, and ammo? That was completely deregulated.”

    Horseshit. Read the English translation of the very bill you just mentioned:

    http://constitutionalistnc.tripod.com/hitler-leftist/id14.html

    “Liberals believe in total reproductive freedom.”

    Yeah, right…that’s why we have liberals selling t-shirts that say “abort Palin” and rail against any woman who chooses NOT to have an abortion or is against abortion herself.

    “The argument is so much easier made that conservatives are for eugenics, what with so many in the South still opposed to interracial marriage…”

    Again, I ask you to prove it. Since those laws have been stricken down, I think you’re just showing your crass intolerance again.

    “I can’t tell you how many liberals I see sporting the Confederate flag on their lifted trucks…”

    But I have lost count of how many people I’ve seen wearing La Raza clothing (literally “the race” in Spanish), black power/NBPP insignia, gang colors, and other such nonsense.

    “What is wrong with you people? Hitler was a vegetarian because he was scared to death of contracting cancer.”

    You’re just making a snide remark about one aspect, not the whole issue – nor are you capable of answering for the Nazi party members whose jobs it was to write policies on exactly what I said: returning to a more natural state so we wouldn’t destroy the ecosystem. Part of his reason for being a vegetarian was also because he was an animal lover.

    “So questioning the right’s blind allegiance to Israel is somehow a campaign against the country?”

    I present exhibit #1:

    http://zombietime.com/gaza_war_protest/

    That’s not questioning, that’s a desire to target Israel for destruction.

    “I really appreciate your rewritten history lesson. It lets me know the degree to which some people are deluded…”

    They do have medication for that, Robert…it’s called Thorazine.

  11. “Have you missed the past several posts lambasting both DHS and TSA?”

    Yes. You see, I don’t make it a habit to visit this site often. But when some crack pot laughably makes an earnest attempt to deflect the striking similarities between Nazis and conservatives by making the argument against liberals, well, you’re basically asking for this kind of response.

    “Exactly. Two of them are Obama and Clinton.”

    Neither of which has ever called themselves conservative. Reagan increased federal spending 53%, raised taxes on eleven different occasions, and added 250,000 government jobs. Bush Sr. increased federal spending by a paltry 12% and reneged on that whole ‘no new taxes thing’. George W. Bush grew the size of government by 40% and added whole bureaucracies where none had previously existed. The size of government actually shrank considerably under Clinton, and as for Obama, well, we haven’t seen this many government jobs shed since, well, Clinton. Using these clear trends, I think it’s safe to say that Conservatism has nothing to do with limited government.

    “Bush wasn’t a true conservative”

    Ah, there’s that tired old excuse that somehow failed to surface until after he left office with a 19% approval rating…

    “Which part of the Constitution gives the government the power to require that I pay into a government-run retirement program?”

    The short answer (which is, incidentally, the thing that makes conservatives hate the Constitution) can be found in the preamble. That whole ‘general welfare’ thing really sticks in your craw, doesn’t it? The long answer can be found in the Supreme Court’s decision in Helverling V. Davis:

    http://www.ssa.gov/history/supreme1.html

    “We’re not talking about not paying it out to those who already paid into it”

    Tell that to Scott Walker, who is actively trying to steal the pensions of public employees.

    “Um…dare I mention Robert Byrd, who passionately championed DOMA?”

    Sure, if it helps you skirt the issue that, like most members of the GOP, the Nazis were fervently opposed to gay rights.

    “That’s funny, because Hitler was an artist and tried twice to gain acceptance to the Vienna Art Institute before he entered politics.”

    Yup, and those rejections were what led him to resent it enough to destroy the culture left by the Weimar Republic. It’s all laid out in rather boring detail in William Shirer’s book “The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich”.

    “Put a gay rights advocate on stage and everyone listens intently. Announce that Ann Coulter is coming for a Q&A session and she’s dodging lemon merengue [sic] pies. That isn’t intellectual, it’s Nazi tactics.”

    I rather enjoy the ironic juxtaposition of gay rights activists commanding the attention of college students alongside their reaction to Ann Coulter. I wonder if it has anything to do with her preoccupation with, and seething contempt for, homosexuals. And last time I checked, the Nazis were subjecting people to Zyklon B., not some harmless custard.

    “Don’t twist my words, you arrogant little shit.”

    Funny how you only manage to eke out a little ersatz civility when you can accuse someone else of being intolerant. Now who’s the hypocrite?

    “She said it.”

    She said exactly what I typed, verbatim. Did you really think I wouldn’t find the video clip and watch it before I posted my comment?

    “Everyone knows damn good and well what she was saying.”

    I see, so completely disregarding the words that came out of her mouth to assign your own meaning to it is completely within reason. If I told you to screw off, would you then infer that I meant to have a wonderful week?

    “If you really think we’re better off now than we were when Obama took office, you ain’t playin’ with a full deck.”

    Oh really? So, we’re still negative for GDP growth? We’re still seeing consecutive months of job losses? We’re not adding thousands upon thousands of jobs per month for fifteen straight months; we’re still losing 750,000 per month? Our trade deficit is still growing higher? We’re still slave to outrageous insurance premiums for the foreseeable future? We’re worse off, huh? Get your head out of your ass, Mel.

    “Maybe I should remind you that in 2003, Bush gave a speech before Congress in which he warned that we were headed for a major economic meltdown and a housing bubble that was going to burst.”

    You should remind me. Better yet, you should remind a psychiatrist capable of treating schizophrenia, because while he was “warning” Congress (please) of impending disaster,  he was telling Eliot Spitzer and all other 49 Attorneys General to go to hell when they collectively begged the federal government to put a stop to predatory lending practices (Spitzer even went straight to the American people, writing an op-ed in the newspaper when it became clear that Bush had no interest in consumer protection). He was also boasting of the eased credit restrictions that he had Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac comply with so more low income buyers could get into homes. The respective stories are here:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/13/AR2008021302783_pf.html

    “Bush tried to push for something that would head it off back then but your fucking Democrats didn’t want to hear it.”

    Wrong. Every single state in the union tried to push the federal government to help stop the tide of predatory lending but your fucking President didn’t want to hear it.

    “Bush authorized TARP for the banks. Obama was the nitwit who extended it to the insurers and automakers.”

    You know what, Mel? You’re right. I’m sorry, it was Obama that bailed out AIG in September of 2008. It was also Obama who gave that $17.4 Billion loan to GM and Chrysler in December of 2008. My sincere apologies. Hack.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1208/16740.html

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122156561931242905.html

    “take a gander at this”

    Ooh, a middle finger and a palm on the camera lens. How Gestapo of them!

    “I guess this was okay, because Tobin works for Fox…”

    What was okay? Nothing? Because that’s what happened. Saying ‘that guy just hit me’ when the camera was conveniently away is just enough to make gullible folks like yourself concoct some ridiculous story. I find it odd that the person responsible for hitting him wasn’t arrested.
     
    “The fact that you refuse to believe that it is going on tells me that you’re drinking the liberal Kool-Aid.”
     
    The fact that you’re painting with such a broad brush tells me that you’re merely out to condemn people. Never mind the fact that these Midwest states are illegally stripping worker’s rights and attempting to steal their pensions while simultaneously handing public utilities over to monolithic corporations. Of course people are angry, and it’s not inconceivable that things would come to a head. But an overwhelming majority (probably 99.8%) have been peaceful, in spite of the right wing lie machine that has convinced you that duct tape residue left on a few walls amounts to “vandalism and millions of dollars in damages”. At least people have a reason to be upset, unlike Tea Party freaks who spit on Congressmen, throw bricks through their windows (Kristallnacht, anyone?), fax pictures of nooses to black members of Congress, leave nasty voicemails about contracting colon cancer and bleeding to death before going to Hell, cutting people’s gas lines, and posting Congress member’s addresses online, all over regulations being imposed on insurance companies. 2010 holds the record of the most death threats to politicians on record, and your side of the aisle is solely responsible for that.
     
    ” and sat as a federal judge in the DC circuit court of appeals”
     
    Yeah, for a year. How that makes him so much more suited for the high court is beyond me. According to most accounts, the man has never displayed any intellectual curiosity. He authors nothing on the court, and the last time he even opened his mouth was over five years ago.
     
    “She never worked as a lawyer”
     
    Sure she has. For Williams & Connolly in D.C.
     
    “nor did she ever sit on the bench”
     
    What’s your point? Neither did Rehnquist. And we all know the high regard that conservatives hold him in.
     
    “She had ZERO experience.”
     
    Correction – she also had recommendations from 69 deans of over 1/3 of the country’s law schools.
     
    “They believed in making your own way in the world and the federal government being limited in both scope and power.”
     
    Unfortunately for you, they didn’t write the Constitution that way. It’s common knowledge that all of the founding fathers held a multitude of views on not only governance, but on religion and economics. The final product is what we follow, not individual differences.
     
    “Prove it. I don’t know of a single conservative that has served in the past decade who has ever been a racist.”
     
    That’s perhaps the most nonsensical statement I’ve ever read.
     
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

    “Nope…not when I point out that that’s exactly what the liberals would do as soon as they had enough power to do it, exactly the way Hitler did”
     
    Well, clearly, you’re full of shit. There are plenty of Democratic governors across this great country, who, if it struck their fancy, could pull the same despicable tactics as Scott Walker, Rick Snyder, and company. The fact that they don’t tells me that they don’t think like you.
     
    “Pot calling kettle…hellooooo…Catholic Democrats and Israel”
     
    Name one Democratic politician that has said that this country needs to crack down on Israeli terrorists, and racially profile them on planes. The kettle is certainly alone on this one.
     
    “Each of these guys are lifelong Democrats, and despite the fact that their businesses are suffering under super-regulation brought on by the party they helped put in office”
     
    You just argued against your own point. Furthermore, there were several tax packages designed to help small businesses in the first two years of the Obama Administration, and the Republicans voted against every last one of them. And in the four months since the GOP has had control of the House, guess how many bills were introduced to help create jobs. Zero. Bills dealing with abortion, sure, but job creation, not so much.
     
    “We sure as hell weren’t anything resembling a one-party nation”
     
    Right. Republican Senate, Republican House, Republican President Nominating right wing judges to high courts. What do you call it?
     
    “What about others who don’t make as much as me? Why should they be forced to pay taxes so that their money can be redistributed?”
     
    Because that’s what the Constitution says is fair. And along the lines of fairness, those who don’t meet a certain financial threshold are exempt from income taxes.

    “Horseshit. Read the English translation of the very bill you just mentioned”

    Or, I could get it from a non biased source that doesn’t proclaim Hitler to be a leftist:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Germany#The_1938_German_Weapons_Act
     
    http://www.law.uchicago.edu/files/files/harcourt_fordham.pdf

    Pages 20 and 21 will be of particular interest to you in the above PDF.

    “and rail against any woman who chooses NOT to have an abortion or is against abortion herself.”

    Oh, bullshit. Let’s not pretend that pro choice doesn’t leave the emphasis on choice.

    “Again, I ask you to prove it. Since those laws have been stricken down, I think you’re just showing your crass intolerance again.”

    Ha. I like when you ask me to prove things. It’s fun for me.

    http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-04-08/news/29415165_1_new-poll-respondents-public-policy-polling

    And before you go scrambling to remind me that there are laws in place that allow it, keep in mind that I said so many in the South are still OPPOSED to interracial marriage.

    “Part of his reason for being a vegetarian was also because he was an animal lover.”

    And what does any of that have to do with comparing liberals to Nazis? Using your inane logic, unless we all go drowning kittens, we’re akin to Adolf Hitler.

    “That’s not questioning, that’s a desire to target Israel for destruction.”

    An obscure website that pictures mostly protesters who appear to be of middle eastern descent. I’m convinced that liberals want to destroy Israel. There are only two people I know that are insane enough to buy into the litany of moronic Jewish conspiracy theories, and they both call themselves conservative.

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