Civility, Revisited

I can’t tell you how many dyed-in-the-wool liberals I’ve dealt with professionally who have Obama bumper stickers/mugs/posters/lawn signs/t-shirts and turn out to be the most bigoted people I’ve ever met. They don’t want to talk to someone who speaks with an accent. They want someone based in the United States, and if they get someone in the US who has an accent, they’ll ask, “are you sure you’re in the United States?”

I wish my friends would say, “no, honey, I’m having a bad dream. Especially the way things are going under the current despot.”

Alas, whether they be dispatchers, customer service representatives or fellow medics, they simply do their best to do their job. Liberals can, at times, be more racist and more spiteful than any conservative I’ve ever met. That includes some of the jerks celebrating the decision made by the American Conservative Union to ban GOProud from the 2012 CPAC gathering. While reading a few of the articles that have been written about it, I found myself once again getting angry with both sides. The liberals, however, took the ball and ran with it on some of the comments they left on the Washington Blade and the Miami Herald.

Diana Cardenas, wife of ACU head Al Cardenas (the man who made the ultimate decision and leaked it to WorldNetDaily and the Daily Caller before having the cojones to tell GOProud leaders Jimmy LaSalvia and Christopher Barron to their faces), made a comment on Facebook about her feelings about TX gov. Rick Perry announcing his opposition to a federal marriage amendment. She made her beliefs clear, calling homosexuality a “behavior” and saying that she wanted a conservative candidate who was willing to take a stand for the traditional view of marriage. I disagree with her, but nothing she said could be classified has hateful. Miami Herald commenters, on the other hand, were…and they were blatantly liberal.

“latina pig wearing fur. oink oink” -piggy piggy

“Bigotry wrapped in dead animals, how creepy.” -FLDemNinja

“Someone put a muzzle on that furry creature.” -Anon

The comments on the Washington Blade were just as ill-informed.

“Wow, self-hating gay men are surprised that “conservative bigots” don’t want them sponsoring their convention. Maybe you should take a good look in the mirror boys. They may invite you to the table, but they’ll spit in your food.” -Sam

“It is pathetic that go proud wants to be involved. Don’t they get it? They hate you. It’s that simple.” -Steve

“lie down with dogs…” -Nick

How about the Advocate? Oh, there’s never a shortage of colorful comments there.

“Oh GoShame, never change. Stay just the way you are. With your head in the sand and your ass in the air.” -Hugh

“Has anyone ever determined definitively that these crazy GoProud people are really gay? I’m very suspicious of them.” -Pete

“LOL…the GOProud…the gay conservative group…but conservatives don’t want them…nor do the gays!” -Rodriguez

“I’d like to boot GOProud too. Right in their….aw nuts.” -Bx

“GOProud needs reparative therapy….and not regarding their sexual orientation…..maybe when Rick Perry and the others show them the boat they have ready for them to an unknown island …will they finally wake up….GOProud needs to click their heels together and say “Neville Chamberlain” 3 times….” -Johann of OC

“Wow… They all held their noses and went down on Ann Coulter and still got the boot! Sounds like high school when the jocks would make the nerdy kid do all kinds of stuff to “let him in the club” while they all laughed at what an idiot he was for seriously thinking they’d ever let him in. Hysterical.” -Michael Jarboe

“GOPROUD is a disgrace to gays everywhere. They are upset that their “partners” in hating gays didn’t invite them to a hate party? They really ought to just get some good loving and like Skittles says “Taste the Rainbow”.” -Joshua

“Wow, These GoProud dirt bags still don’t want to admit that the CPAC people want them and us dead. They need to realize that the definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing (suck up to the repubs) over and over and over again, all the while getting the same answer (from the repubs), and expecting the result to change.” -Jessica

“If anyone STILL needed to know why ‘Gay Republican’ is an oxymoron; THIS IS IT!!” -CountryBoy

And yet, somehow, conservatives are the ones who need a lesson in manners.

It never ceases to amaze me just how hateful liberals can be while pointing out what they believe to be wrong with conservatives. If, however, you point out their outright intolerance, they explain it like this: “I don’t need to tolerate someone who is intolerant.”

That should say all that needs to be said about their twisted logic.

To Jimmy LaSalvia and Chris Barron, you still have our undying support. I’m sorry that things have taken such a drastic turn, but keep fighting the good fight. You’re doing a good job. We all knew this part wouldn’t be easy but our road is definitely more admirable and we should have no problem saying it.

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13 thoughts on “Civility, Revisited

  1. You all do realize those that bash at gay conservatives the most are the biggest cadre of closet conservatives around. That what you despise the most is often a large part of who you are. So take it with a grain of salt when a supposedly ultra liberal gay person gives you grief. Such people are simply trying to hate away what they can’t stand about themselves.

  2. I did not grow up come out and then decide after that effort to give up my identity and stop having any original thoughts. If die hard conservatives wnated gay people dead then they have had two dozen decades to get that done. We are still here so I guess a gay genocide is not a high priority among conservatives.

    While I am here, ogranizations never change unless people inside the orginizations demand it. An example is the Episcopal church. Not so long ago, it was not the gay friendly chruch it has become. The church changed because people on the inside lobbied for change.

    The Republican party will never change as long as gay folk avoid being a part of the party and supporting it.

  3. Savvydude, I’m glad you said that. I have said many times that being a lesbian is only one of many things that make up who I am, and I’m sure every one of us would agree. We’re all a lot of things – someone’s child, someone’s sibling, a person who is talented in different ways and holds to diverse beliefs. It’s a truth that so many liberals deprive themselves of when they fall into lock-step with the establishment and take whatever they’re spoon-fed as gospel.

    By the way, I did change the layout of the post to make it easier on the eyes…I didn’t realize until someone pointed out that the quotes, all in italics, were bunched together. I separated them to make it just a smidge easier. 😉

  4. I skimmed over some of the comments. More rabid leftist America hating gay activist types, going around pretending to be oppressed. People who thought they could make a career out of being gay. The novelty wore off. The shock value is gone. Pretending to be oppressed minorities assailed by Republican “homophobes”, “Bible thumpers”, and/or “tea baggers”. Playing the role of victim provides a sense of purpose to their otherwise pointless and unfulfilled lives.

    You better worry more about the Muslims who want to hang you from ropes, rather than a few Born Agains who think you’re going to Hell when you die. It’s Democrats who so eagerly embrace the Muslim “religion”, in case you didn’t notice. Hey… Whatever makes you feel important and relevant. If you can imagine yourselves as living under siege, then run with it.

    I’m not having any problems with my Fundamentalist Christian friends. It doesn’t hurt that I’m against same-sex marriage (misleadingly called “marriage equality”). That’s right. I’m one of those “off the charts conservative” gay conservatives. It’s a straight ceremony. I have no interest in mimicking what I consider to be a straight ceremony. I don’t want any part of it. Never did. I’m not into role playing. Playing house, and creating some kind of pretend family. It’s not my thing. You want to call another guy your “husband”? Go for it. Whatever makes it happen.

    However, as I’ve said before, it’s not like I’m going to tip over and burn a TriMet bus if it becomes law. Same-sex marriage WILL be legalized. It’s an eventuality. Why spin my wheels railing against it. I make my opinion known, then – I move on. It’s not like I’m sitting here obsessing over it. I do think it’s interesting (no it’s not) how 20 years ago, I was running into all of these other gay men who had nothing but contempt for marriage. Now, it’s suddenly imperative. We must have it immediately, and if you don’t agree; you’re a “homophobe”. I love how that works.

    My sexual orientation IS NOT MY LIFE. There is no gay “lifestyle” going on around here. I reject that term. Oh. Before I forget… Regarding the 69% of California’s black voter’s who voted in favor of Prop 8 (the gay marriage ban). Are THEY ‘bigots’ as well, or is that moniker reserved for whites only? Now, back to the matter at hand… I have absolutely NO desire to march down a street based on sexual orientation. That is a peripheral issue. Part of the reason so many men do not describe themselves as gay, is because of (and fear of being compared to) the freaks and riffraff who march in these parades. Someone’s twelve year old doesn’t need to see two guys in bottomless leather chaps molesting each other in the middle of the street. It’s an embarrassment to the rest of us. It’s a low class gratuitous display of vulgarity.

    The America hating gay leftist embarrassments can keep trash talking. Keep running their mouths. I tune them out. My friends and I already have enough bad gay stereotypes to shatter. Rosie O’Donnell, Rachel Mad Cow, Chris Crocker, Perez Hilton. Speaking for men, in this case… This is why we have an an astonishingly large amount of men who sleep with other men, and don’t consider themselves to be gay. They do not want to be identified with with high profile gays and lesbians who are complete embarrassments. They don’t want to be compared with the FREAKS they see marching in the parades. They do not want to be identified with the FREAKS who wrote the letters Mel cited above.

  5. I should clarify that by “skimmed over some of the comments”, I was referencing comments (from liberals) Mel cited in her article. I certainly wasn’t speaking about the blog comments.

  6. August 8, 2011

    I realize that this is slightly off the topic.
    Yesterday, I went to the BBC News site. A pundit there said something like: after the rocky, debt ceiling debate, maybe the USA should consider if their goverment is old-fashioned and useless.
    Today, AOL’s news reports that: London is ablaze, from riots, after news that-a British police officer has killed a civilian.

    I hope that the above pundit will look at his own government’s faults, and his own society’s faults, before he tries to look down on the U.S. nation, for a second time.
    In other words: make sure that you are perfect, before you can call someone imperfect. In my view, all reporter’s statements should be measured before the statements are used.

  7. “My sexual orientation IS NOT MY LIFE. There is no gay “lifestyle” going on around here. I reject that term. Oh. Before I forget… Regarding the 69% of California’s black voter’s who voted in favor of Prop 8 (the gay marriage ban). Are THEY ‘bigots’ as well, or is that moniker reserved for whites only? Now, back to the matter at hand… I have absolutely NO desire to march down a street based on sexual orientation. That is a peripheral issue. Part of the reason so many men do not describe themselves as gay, is because of (and fear of being compared to) the freaks and riffraff who march in these parades. Someone’s twelve year old doesn’t need to see two guys in bottomless leather chaps molesting each other in the middle of the street. It’s an embarrassment to the rest of us. It’s a low class gratuitous display of vulgarity.”

    Tyler, is that what actually goes on during Pride parades? I have never attended any type of parade, so I assumed the Pride parades were simply a bunch of homosexual couples marching with their hands held or waving rainbow flags.

    If what you say is how the liberals distinguish themselves, then it merely validates all the anti-gay steretypes. I had noticed something similar with black americans when I took Civil War and Civil Rights histories. A while back, most of the black people wanted to be educated and well-off (and to be acknowledged for their accomplishment). But now that they have swung over to the liberal side, they view education as “being white” and the moral degredation and poverty championed in rap as “black culture”

    So, liberals are doing to the homosexuals what they did to the blacks. People should identify themselves according to who they are and not what they are.

  8. Well, conservatives have that distinction. Republicans? Meh…I could parade out a number of things that would accurately portray the party itself as hypocritical, except it would only apply to those who took part in certain unmentionable activities (Larry Craig…)

    As for gay pride parades, a LOT can be seen there. If you live in San Francisco, you can end up scarred for life by all of the “freedom” you see. Zombietime.com has some very…um…accurate photojournals that are blurred unless you click to have them unblurred. Zombie is awesome.

  9. Geez, so the liberals who clamor for “get the government out of the bedroom,” but those advocates are the ones making bedroom matters into public matters!

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