When Advocate.com linked Ethan Sabo’s video, gay liberals assailed not only him but all who supported him. One commenter apparently felt that calling me a “quisling” made him sound sophisticated, because he kept saying it over and over again (it’s British slang that was used during the two world wars to describe those who collaborated with the enemy). None of them said anything new. I started off trying to have an intelligent debate and was immediately called names – hatemonger, collaborator, anti-gay (that was a hoot), neocon, traitor, angry…several accused me of wanting to pick a fight.
The legend in his own mind who kept calling me a quisling hysterically posted on his Tumblr page that his night had essentially been ruined because “I’ve spent the entire night slapping around a Log Cabin lesbian.” That was hilarious. Let’s talk about some of the idiotic things that were said, shall we? First of all, I’m not Log Cabin. I’m not a Republican. I don’t know how many times I said it – they never got it. I am conservative, and I don’t see the Republican party as conservative anymore, not after Bush’s miserable fiscal policies. Either they didn’t speak proper English or they weren’t even reading my comments.
First came the following comment: “If Republicans would live and let live instead of writing rants about how gay people bring on and DESERVE anti-gay bigotry, if Republicans weren’t passing laws restricting gay rights (like DOMA)…” Okay, kids. History lesson. DOMA, or the Defense of Marriage Act, was introduced by Robert L. Barr, Jr. (R-GA) on May 7, 1996 – impressively one year after he took office. It passed the House of Representatives on July 21, 1996 with an astounding vote of 342-67 with 22 not voting (it’s noteworthy that Democrats Sheila Jackson-Lee and Major Owens simply voted “present”, and the yea votes included Dick Gephardt, whose own daughter is a lesbian). It passed the Senate on September 10, 1996 with an equally crushing vote of 85-14 with 1 not voting (yays included notable Democrats Tom Daschle, Pat Leahy, Harry Reid, and Joe “FDR Went On TV” Biden). Then-president Bill Clinton wasted absolutely no time in signing it into law – he did so on September 21, 1996. For the third time in two years, I will remind us all of what Democrat Robert Byrd said in his impassioned speech on the floor of the Senate:
“Many legal scholars believe that only after a majority of society comes to a consensus on the legality or illegality of one issue or another should that issue be written down in our legal institutions. The drive for same-sex marriage is, in effect, an effort to make a sneak attack on society by encoding this aberrant behavior in legal form before society itself has decided it should be legal—a proposition which is far in the distance, if ever to be realized. Let us defend the oldest institution, the institution of marriage between male and female as set forth in the Holy Bible.”
Today, Bill Clinton staunchly defends his continuing support for DOMA. However, the Republican who introduced the bill in the first place – Rep. Robert L. Barr, Jr. – today supports the repeal of DOMA. Funny how some people change and others don’t.
At one point, I pointed out the simplified difference between socialism and communism. I said that socialism is an economic system, while communism is a form of government. Well, the same twit tried to tell me I was wrong – in the form of a “Yahoo! Answers” type of site where someone asks a question and the best answer from other users is chosen by the person who asked the question. The thing that’s really funny about the link is that it basically made MY point, not his. Here’s the truth: Marx himself called socialism just one stage on the road to outright communism. Both are considered systems of production, however, socialism will claim free enterprise while still enforcing severe regulations and making sure business owners weren’t ever wealthy (because, you know, that’s just unfair). Communism allows for no free enterprise whatsoever – nobody owns their own business because the state owns everything.
If I thought he couldn’t get any worse, he (yes, the same guy) tried to tell me that Nazis weren’t socialists. Oh, that was priceless. Let’s have another history lesson, shall we? The term “Nazi” is a name for Hitler’s political party that came from the first syllable of the party name as it is pronounced in German. In German, it was the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei. Translated to English, that says NATIONAL SOCIALIST GERMAN WORKERS PARTY. Yes, the Nazis were socialists. Believe it or not, socialism and fascism can exist on quite friendly terms in the same government. Fascism is extremist nationalism, socialism is – as I explained above – an economic system. Click here and here for full-color scans of Nazi propaganda posters that pushed socialism and worker’s rights, among other things. If anyone is in doubt of whether Hitler was a genuine socialist, here are his own words, from chapter 1 of Mein Kampf:
“I do not know which is more terrible: inattention to social misery such as we see every day among the majority of those who have been favored by fortune or who have risen by their own efforts, or else the snobbish, or at times tactless and obtrusive, condescension of certain women of fashion in skirts or in trousers, who ‘feel for the people.’ In any event, these gentry sin far more than their minds, devoid of all instinct, are capable of realizing. Consequently, and much to their own amazement, the result of their social ‘efforts’ is always nil, frequently, in fact, an indignant rebuff, though this, of course, is passed off as a proof of the people’s ingratitude. Such minds are most reluctant to realize that social endeavor has nothing in common with this sort of thing; that above all it can raise no claim to gratitude, since its function is not to distribute favors but to restore rights.”
And this, from chapter 12:
“As things stand today, the trade unions in my opinion cannot be dispensed with. On the contrary, they are among the most important institutions of the nation’s economic life. Their significance lies not only in the social and political field, but even more in the general field of national politics. A people whose broad masses, through a sound trade-union movement, obtain the satisfaction of their living requirements and at the same time an education, will be tremendously strengthened in its power of resistance in the struggle for existence”.
Then…there was this guy. Bill Armstrong. After he made a crass remark about gay conservatives being collaborators on the same level as a VERY small number of Jews were with Nazis during WWII, I pointed out what Hitler really believed. Here was Bill’s response to me: “…I do know, historically, what was done to collaborators at the end of WWII. They had their heads shaved, their throat slit and their bodies hung upside down on the lamp posts of Rome and Paris.”
As soon as that not-so-veiled threat was dropped, I ceased any and all attempts to reason with any of them. I will respond to that remark in person just as soon as I get my voice back.